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Prius Whole house Converdant Inverter

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by Chuck Reiss, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. Elektroingenieur

    Elektroingenieur Senior Member

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    The Japanese version of the Repair Manual (RM3220J) gives a little more information about Toyota’s 1500-watt inverter. The Hybrid Vehicle ECU can definitely intervene and turn it off when necessary. In the section シガレットライタ/アクセサリーソケット(内装) アクセサリーソケットシステム(非常時給電システムあり 注意事項, Toyota explains (roughly translated):

    In the accessory socket system, even if there is no abnormality in the hybrid control system, under the following conditions, the fail-safe function of the hybrid control system activates, the operation disable signal is input from the hybrid vehicle control computer, and the operation is stopped.
    • When the hybrid battery capacity decreases
    • When the hybrid battery is at low or high temperature
    • When the hybrid battery voltage drops
    For my part, I would be very hesitant to connect an inverter directly to the HV battery without a similar protective feature. Barging uninvited into the hybrid vehicle and battery ECUs’ feedback control loops—drawing current from the HV battery that they can’t measure or control—also strikes me as ill-advised, at least without far more analysis than can be done with information from the open literature.
     
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    Converdant just went out of business... anyone have any links to updated info on which inverter to buy for Toyota hybrids?
     
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    that's a shame, i don't think there is anyone else. another prius aftermarket company bites the dust.
    well, i'm not surprised, i think only one member here bought one.
     
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    Well I've read there's nothing special about Converdant's inverters right? I can just buy any pure sine inverter and have the fuse set at 1kw and it's the same effect? I just want to hook up to the 12v in the back of the vehicle
     
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    oh sure. conversant just had big one that ran off the hybrid battery.
    there are plenty of threads here on small ones running off the 12v.
     
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    ^Thanks, do you have a link to a good thread? I used the search function and I just get threads on the automotive inverter :/
     
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    If you're referring to a 12V battery - it's under the bonnet (hood), not in the back of the Gen 4.

    Or are you putting in an auxiliary 12v battery in the back like we used to when camping?
     
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    I have a 3 kW inverter from Converdant connected to my house via a transfer panel installed by a professional electrician. It works well. I can supply more info but unfortunately Converdant went out of business a few years ago so itps probably irrelevant. I don't know of any source for an inverter setup suitable for running off of the traction battery so one could use the high-power main electrical system, not just the 12V accessory circuitry (which is limited to something like 1200 W, I believe).
     
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    What is "special" about the Converdant inverters (no longer being sold AFAIK, alas) is that they are designed to run off the 200+ V main battery, so their power capabilities (3 kW and more) will actually run the key functions of a house.
     
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    unfortunately, this necro thread died a quick death
     
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    I have one new, unused, for sale. Will post in private sales.
     

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    did you ever sell it?
     
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    I used a Converdant inverter successfully for 2 years through multiple blackouts. Using a Prius and an inverter is super quiet and efficient compared to a generator. Since we sold the Prius, our inverter is surplus.
     
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    Does that mean it could be available to PriusChatters? Which size is it?
     
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    Just saw your response. Can you PM me and let me know more details about it?
     
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    Apparently, Converdant is now back in business as new company PlugOut Power and have version 4 models 3kw and 5kw inverters for sale. The owner Randy Bryan is taking advanced reservation order now.
    PlugOut Power
     
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    The 'resources and news' at the bottom of the page only references articles from 2013 to 2015.
     
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    Yeah, there is not much substance to the HP, mostly link to the blogs to older Converdant inverter users. I gathered that the company is very small one owner/employee out of his garage operation. The best way to get more information is to directly e-mail. He does respond.
     
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    Sorry, where is possible to get it to read more details?
     
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    I think you will need paid subscription at Toyota tech site. But from what @Elektroingenieur described, it is written in Japanese (no English translation version). I maybe wrong, but that's what I think.