1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Prius Prime on top of list (again)

Discussion in 'Prime Fuel Economy & EV Range' started by Marine Ray, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Marine Ray

    Marine Ray Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    1,138
    939
    0
    Location:
    Sparks, NV
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    PP at the top of the list in the recent annual list of Greener Cars issued by the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE). First time I've seen EV "fuel economy" rated at miles/kWh and not mpgE.

    GreenerCars Ratings | Greener Cars
     
    mr88cet and Chazman62 like this.
  2. Chazman62

    Chazman62 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2019
    108
    65
    0
    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Vehicle:
    2020 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XLE
    Below is from that website.
    3.58 miles/kWh Hwy
    4.26 miles/kWh City

    During my 2000 miles of ownership, I've been getting in "average" minimum EV range of 25 miles and Maximum of 30 miles from the fully charged traction battery.
    Prime has 8.8 kWh battery and it seems the ICE kicks in when the battery has about 20% charge left.
    Using above data, I get below:

    Min = 25 miles / (8.8 kWh x 80%) = 3.55 miles/kWh
    Max = 30 miles / (8.8 kWh x 80%) = 4.26 miles/kWh

    That's darn close!
     
    Marine Ray likes this.
  3. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,688
    48,943
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    any 4th quarter sales reports yet?
     
  4. Marine Ray

    Marine Ray Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    1,138
    939
    0
    Location:
    Sparks, NV
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
  5. Marine Ray

    Marine Ray Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    1,138
    939
    0
    Location:
    Sparks, NV
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    About the ICE kicking in at 20% state of charge (SOC). That's consistent with most battery electric vehicles. It's my understanding that the standard is 20-80% SOC. When you hear Tesla doing over the air changes for Tesla owners during emergencies such as hurricane evacuations, they allow batteries to go above 80% SOC for longer range.
    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
  6. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,963
    8,839
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Prime EV SOC is from 84-12% by Hybrid Assistant numbers. That's ~72% of total SOC used for EV mode. At 12% SOC, the car starts the engine and goes into HV mode.
     
    Marine Ray likes this.
  7. mr88cet

    mr88cet Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    2,306
    1,330
    0
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Better to let the computer do the work. It knows quite accurately how much of the battery it’s using and how many miles it’s moving.