EV range compared to Gen4

50%

 

There are a few YouTube videos of people getting quite a bit better than advertised EV range. I hope that’s the case for me when I get mine soon

obviously, if you have the pedal to the metal everywhere you go, you can probably expect to get worse than advertised.

 

You don't own either, and the EPA estimate for Gen 5 SE is 76% higher than for Gen 4.

 

That sounds wrong, but my not owning either has no more relevance than you owning one.
Do you have a link to the epa estimates?

 

I have been getting upwards of 45 miles in pure EV mode with 2023 XSE. So that's a bit higher than the published range. I don't know what Gen 4 gets.

 

Must be a small sample to get info from people who have had both. On my 2020 I get about 5 miles per kwh, more like 5.2 usually, all town driving. What the 2023 owners are getting I don’t know. I find mi/kwh plummets on the highway to about or a little above the epa range of 25 miles. If the 2023 people are getting in the mi/kwh, then it can be guessed about what their ranges are. It varies a lot and is very sensitive to driving style.
I went from a Volt with a larger range to the gen 4. I see no difference in my use on electric between them because I always charge before it’s depleted anyway, almost always. So I am more than happy to have the lighter battery pack and better mpg on gas with the Prime. A higher range in a 2023 to someone like me absolutely makes no difference except in rare instances.

 

I’m routinely getting 39 EV miles on my Gen4 2022. City driving.

 

(EDIT) 35 EV miles i get in city driving , on highways i usually get 28EV miles with air conditionning at 100KM/H
Lose 10% with snow tires ....and lose an other 20% in snow .......in sub zero territory ICE kicks in for defrost and heating because the heatpump cannot handle the cold.

 

Gen 4: 25 mi
Gen 5 SE: 44 mi
Gen 5 XSE/XSE Plus: 39 mi

Data on Toyota website.

 

thank you, i sit corrected. i forgot that the se got better range and mileage. but i'm still correct about the other two, without owning either

 

The LE, either hybrid or plug in, is the replacement of the gen4 L Eco.

 

How? L Eco and L had the same wheel/tire size. The only difference between LE/SE and higher trims is the wheel/tire size.

 

What was L eco range?

 

He is talking about mpg.

 

Oh, sorry. I thought this thread was about ev range

 

But the EV range will somewhat correlate with the mpg on a PHEV.

 

So what’s the L eco epa range?

 

L Eco is an HEV, not a PHEV.

You can scale the 44-mi BEV range on Gen 5 SE by mpg, and you get 41 mi for XSE/XSE Plus, which is correct as the 39-mi EPA range within the uncertainty in the least-significant figure crawling in the calculation.