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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by coyote2, Nov 12, 2023.

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    Prius-Instrument-Panel-Cloudy.jpg At night, inside the instrument panel, outside of a circle around the glowing green instruments, there is a splotchy cloudy haze. It doesn't interfere with viewing (and it's not visible during daytime), it's just cosmetically unappealing.

    I assume that dealing with this would cost far more money than I care to spend.

    I don't know why the instruments appear blurry, and the cloudy splotchiness appears everywhere, on this photo.
     
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    You haven't tried to clean it? I've never had a problem ever with a little glass cleaner on a towel fixing this problem. You'd have to have a really beat up Prius and always drive with the windows down on a dusty road to have it get underneath the dash, and even then its only a hour or two to take apart and clean.
     
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    Be sure to clean both the instrument panel glass that faces you and the plastic cover that you can see by looking down through the windshield from the outside of the car.

    I'm always amazed at how much clearer the readouts are with a quick clean.
     
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    Don't overlook that the speedometer is a projection; the lens it projects up from is in the bottom surface of the cluster area.

    Have you checked that there isn't just some gunk on that? It's not hard for stuff to end up there.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ooops! Thank you very much ChapmanF, I knew that it was a projection but I assumed that the projection all occurred inside the glass. Now I'm sure that once I get home this will clean off easily. I think it happened when some dumb carwash ArmourAll-ed my dash.
     
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    I was wrong. Vigorous prolonged cleaning with glass cleaner and paper towels barely did anything.

    Any advice please on more powerful cleaning measures? As mentioned, I think it might be they got Armour All-ed.

    What exactly are the surfaces? The bottom flat section is a mirror, so I know to find out how best to clean that. What material is it facing the driver?
     
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    It's labeled as a smoke(d) acrylic plate.

    Maybe that is where some of the Armor All ended up, as the warning lights look sort of blurry too, and they shine through it, instead of reflecting on it.
     
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    Discussion of a similar issue here:

    Armor all cleaner product stained the clear plastic covering of gauge cluster..... - NASIOC

    In summary, it might polish off, but more likely the plate will need to be replaced.

    I would suggest getting a mirror and flashlight and closely examining the plate that the light first passes through. It might be contaminated too. If this first plate is OK then putting a small mirror flush up against the second plate should give a clear image. Or at least I think so, never having done the experiment.
     
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    Now I've done that. The first plate (the one that faces up and one needs a mirror--or to look down through the windshield--to see) is the bad one; the second plate (the one the driver looks at) is clear.
    I tried cleaning the first plate again. Simple Green and paper towel did nothing. I then tried Simple Green with a non-scratch pad; it both cleaned the plate somewhat and scratched the plate a bit. I think it's a wash; cleaned the image is a good deal less splotchy, but scratched it's a bit blurred.

    I know I won't be removing the dash myself; maybe next time I take it in to Berkeley's Art's Automotive I'll mention it to them. I doubt I want to spend more than $100 on any work on it; it was OK before and it's OK now. (Couldn't even see the spotchiness except at night...but the slight blurriness does seem noticable during the day.)
     
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    If the only problem now is slightly scratched plastic it may improve if you wax that piece of plastic. Most of the optical problem caused by a scratch in plastic is from the difference in the index of refraction at the air/plastic interface. Wax has an index of refraction much closer to plastic than air, so filling the scratch with plastic reduces light scatter. (This is also mostly what the windshield chip repair kits do, but there they use another plastic, like a methacrylate, and some system to make a flat surface over the much larger pit.) I suppose one could also go through the whole wet sanding then polish sequence, like on a headlight, but it would probably drip into the dash (which would be bad). If the scratches were exceedingly fine skipping the sanding and just polishing might work. Probably all of the preceding would only work as a band aid, the real fix is to replace that piece of plastic.

    If it is any consolation I once damaged two headlights trying to clean them with PlastX. The bottle had sat too long and the solids fell out and clumped up. Even though I shook it hard the contents didn't actually mix well, so when the "polish" was applied to the headlight it was mostly solvent - and it proceeded to eat the anti-UV coating.