2023/4 Prius Prime vs. used Volt?

As I said, a valve-gated refrigerant path through the battery pack. IIRC the only other dedicated component is an expansion valve. It uses the same heat exchangers and compressor as the cabin AC/heat pump.

Yes, the Gen 4 cools the cabin to cool the battery when charging. (Presumably the battery just has to lump it if you set cabin temperature to MAX while driving...)

 

Could you post a pic of the system?

 

Not got a live subscription, or a saved copy, I'm afraid. Working from memory...

 

I'll take what you said with a grain of salt then.

 

Do you even know what a Chevy Volt is?

It is a full, power-split hybrid.

For much of its history, the Prius was a high outlier for efficiency. The gen2 Volt's ratings are comparable to other hybrids and PHEVs of the time. https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=PowerSearch&year1=2016&year2=2019&minmsrpsel=0&maxmsrpsel=0&city=0&highway=0&combined=0&cbvthybrid=Hybrid&cbvtplugin=Plug-in+Hybrid&YearSel=2016-2019&MakeSel=&MarClassSel=&FuelTypeSel=&VehTypeSel=Hybrid%2C+Plug-in+Hybrid&TranySel=&DriveTypeSel=&CylindersSel=&MpgSel=000&sortBy=Comb&Units=&url=SearchServlet&opt=new&minmsrp=0&maxmsrp=0&minmpg=0&maxmpg=0&sCharge=&tCharge=&startstop=&cylDeact=&rowLimit=50
In general, PHEVs can't match BEVs in mpge.


2016 Chevrolet Volt Premier Review & Test Drive – GM’s Hybrid Electric Gets Amped Up : Automotive Addicts

 

The Volts are hatchbacks. The second Volt was a different hybrid system than the first Volt and more like the Prius I believe. They were very different drives the Volt 1 & 2.
Only the 2019 Volt had higher level 2 charging and it was optional if I remember. Hard to find one of those. The level 2 is about the same rate as the Prime for the rest of them. Volt 2 was 3.8 kw or something just a little higher, or maybe it was 3.6.

 

that volt hatch looks huge, hard to believe it is smaller than gen5 prius

 

A joule per coulomb like any other volt?

 

Meh, my Gen 4 Prius Prime gets 54/42 − 1 = 29% better fuel economy than what it gets. So, I consider mine as the real hybrid.

 

Aye, just as well. For all we know without definitive NCF screenshots, the G5 might not be a hatchback or a real hybrid either.

 

Post it when you have definite information instead of a vague recollection of something that you might have seen.

I have the Gen 4 NCF.

 

No matter what the haters say, Gen 4 Prius Prime is a great car, and I have the top trim. Gen 5 Prius Prime SE, which is the only trim I would be interested in because of the fuel efficiency and BEV range, misses several nice features my top trim has.

"Better no matter what??" Whatever that means. I don't need the higher power and marginally improved handling of Gen 5 Prius Prime. I can care less about the looks. In fact, I like the headlight and taillight design of mine better. I keep repeating it: The only appeal in Gen 5 for me is TSS 3.0. Some want it for the looks, which is OK. Others want it because they don't have a car. You don't want it at all because you are a Tesla fanboy—yet, you keep posting in a Prius forum—which is also OK.

 

Why should I (or anyone else) ever want to do anything for you?

If you care that much, get the Gen 5 NCF yourself; don't ask people on here for information then reject it when freely given.

 

That's a very bizarre post—as bizarre as your previous one. No one is asking you to do anything, and there is no reason for such posts. Civility is appreciated more than anything in this forum.

 

They had the same system, just general improvements over time. I believe it dates back to an EV1 PHEV concept.

It had a planetary gear set like the system in the Prius. Where the engine and motors connected into was different. There were clutches to allow better EV performance, which Toyota added in the gen4 Prime.

It isn't. Chevy listed it as 10.something cubic feet, but the EPA has it as 19. Supplying cabin and cargo volume for actual cars to the EPA is a legal requirement. That makes the 19 the total cargo space. The 10 is probably the space without blocking the back window.

If we used your definition of hybrid, the segment's sales would look a whole lot worse.

How about you post evidence that the gen5 NCF reads just like the gen4 as you claimed.