Another EGR thread, where the focus is NOT having to clean it, preventative care.

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by h1ph0panonymous, Jun 30, 2025 at 6:57 PM.

  1. ASRDogman

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    :eek:o_O Guess you never saw a classic car show..... :whistle::whistle:
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Never one with Priuses - unless you count the ones in the parking lot.

    I'm thinking that.....'perhaps' most ot the car show cars do not have EGR coolers.
     
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    ANY car will last if you take care of it. EVERY car will wear and need parts replaced.
     
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    3rd gen Prius needs a relentless, EGR clean-up crew. Just rite of ownership. :rolleyes:

    I’m surprised they don’t mention it in the owners manual, say together with the statement about oil consumption less than a quart every 600 miles being normal. :confused:

    Owners manual oil consumption | PriusChat
     
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    Personally I think Ai is spot-on with using top tier gas. It's the only gas I ever use and when I went to clean my EGR at around 140k miles and it looked nothing like the images posted here. It was dirty, but not clogged in any way whatsoever.
     
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    can 3rd gen prius EGR system be kept clean by using Top Tier gas

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    AI Overview
    No, using Top Tier gasoline alone is unlikely to keep a 3rd gen Prius's EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system clean. While Top Tier gasoline can help keep fuel injectors and the combustion chamber cleaner, it won't prevent or remove the carbon buildup that typically clogs the EGR valve and passages.
    Here's why:

    • EGR system function:
      The EGR system recirculates exhaust gases back into the engine to reduce emissions. Over time, these gases deposit carbon and soot, leading to clogs.
    • Top Tier gasoline benefits:
      Top Tier gasoline contains detergents that help keep fuel injectors and the combustion chamber cleaner by preventing the buildup of deposits.
    • EGR system specific challenges:
      The EGR system is exposed to high temperatures and different types of combustion byproducts, making it more susceptible to carbon buildup than the fuel system.
    • Manual cleaning required:
      Heavily caked EGR valves and passages typically require manual cleaning or the use of specialized EGR cleaning products.
    In conclusion: While Top Tier gasoline is beneficial for overall engine health and fuel system cleanliness, it's not a substitute for regular cleaning of the EGR system. Some experts recommend manual cleaning of the EGR valve and related components every 100,000 miles to maintain optimal performance and prevent potential issues according to Tampa Hybrids Inc..
     

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    Never said its a substitute. I agree with what you posted Mendel, I was more specifically referring to the AI answer of:
    • Better detergents → less carbon in combustion chamber → slightly less soot going into EGR.
    • Won’t stop all buildup but helps
    That I see in my car, so I agree with it.
     
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    I have always used top tier gas (shell) as well as something like a bottle of Techron or Gumout regane before an oil change, and my EGR system was almost completely clogged up at 140k and the Egr Valve was so stuck it had the classic mushed ski jump. I put a new valve and intake manifold, also cleaned the cooler. I’m approaching 210k but haven’t tore back into the egr, but plan to this winter. Side note: I did install an OCC that i clean out every 5k. I personally think it’s one of the best ways to lessen oil blow by, which in theory should keep the egr less gummed up with sticky oily residue.
     
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    But here’s the thing, the head gasket is going to fail regardless of how many times you do an EGR cleaning.
     
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    I’m going to use half a bottle of redline on tank fill ups before oil changes and then two full bottles of techron for the two fill ups after oil changes, then the oil change after all that I will be using a quarter bottle of redline before the second oil change, then one ounce of redline before all future oil changes after those two said oil changes but two techron fill ups after each oil change will always stay the same consistent process as too much of that won’t hurt, it’s the redline you don’t want to keep using exceedingly more each time, you wanna go a lot at first then go lower and lower till an ounce each time as preventative measures. Regardless it seems head gaskets are going to fail no matter how much EGR cleaning GM or water pump replacement you do.
     
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    this is an all time great thread :)
     
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    I agree to this, your 3rd gen head gasket will fail eventually. I think Toyota just use a poor made headgasket or something.
     
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    Brother, have I something to tell you. There is this guy that owns a super modified gen 3 Prius (not Asian ricer style modified lol) that lives at my daughters apartment complexes. Seen him replacing his brake fluid one day and just said hey and small talked. Fast forward to this past two weeks, he’s loaned me and gifted me $200 in tools. He’s an expert-Mercedes mechanic (he has a sick Mercedes too) anyway I did my own rear brake job and hub replacement the first week because he is a recovering colon cancer patient and it was heatwave that week so he couldn’t he do me with my first real DIY car repair but guided me over text, this week he helped me do my front brakes the whole way even didn’t mind the seized rotors lol while we were talking about the causes of the Prius’ head gasket failing he said “I will do you head gasket” (for free if I buy it) I literally almost cried and hugged him. I’m so lucky to know this dude and he really only wants to help me because I’m Ukrainian and “his peoples” (he back from France). I’m so grateful though. Next week he is replacing my brake fluid for free with his nice brake fluid exchanger equipment! Then he’s going to help me tackle the surface rust under my car with lanolin based material.
     
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    damn! That’s a nice guy lol, hopefully he’s still around when your headgasket starts leaking, make sure don’t blow the headgasket. Once you see you have a misfire and coolant leak, stop driving the car and start replacing the headgasket. Don’t risk blowing the engine since it’s still good, besides the headgasket.
     
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    Same inside my oil catch can, stainless steel
    Scrubs. I laugh when I see everyone day use steel wool after they search the www. Another bad one of carista,
    The marketing department for that company knocked it out of the ball park paying off search engine sites. I see it recommended all
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    Obd 2.