Is My 2025 Solar Charger Malfunctioning?

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  1. iRun26.2

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    I’ve had my 2025 Prius PHEV for about 1 1/2 months and have been quite pleased. I went with the Solar Roof option and have been satisfied with the results that I’ve been seeing in the added miles/day due to solar charging (infomation screen).

    On a nice sunny day I can get the car to tell me that it received 3-miles of range from the solar charge. However, the change in % charged does not align at all with that number. I think the most I’ve seen is 2% increase in the percentage charged. Two miles (assuming a 100% charged battery would go 40 miles) should be 1/20 of full charge or 5% increase. I’ve never seen that and I have had a 3 mile solar charge gain day once. Note all numbers are for a parked car in the sun.

    What about the rest of you? Does anyone see charge percentage increases that match the number of miles it tells you? Is there something wrong with mine or could there something else be going on?

    (Thanks in advance for anyone who can provide some of their own numbers. )
     
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    This sounds like questions you should be asking the dealership or Toyota help line.

    I'm averaging around 4.0 Kwh/mile in a gen4, don't know what your larger, heavier gen5 is doing. Toyota is always optimistic on it's display; but when you manually average everything out, you can see the actual vs Toyota's reporting. You'll need to do some math, rather than rely on instrument cluster projections to get the true story.
     
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    I typically get 4.5 miles/kW-hr (on the days that I drive to work and back). On the weekends I tend to do better (I’m disappointed if I’m under 5.0 miles/kW-hr). Thus, for a full (10kW-hr) charge I should get at least 45 miles.

    That means that each percent should represent 0.45 miles. When I only get 2% increment for something that tells me I got ‘2-miles of charge’ it is telling me I only got 0.45 x 2 = 0.9miles. Something doesn’t seem to be right.

    Can someone with a solar roof please tell me what they are seeing? I may need to contact the dealer but I want someone with a 2024 or 2025 solar roof to tell me what they are seeing.
     
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    I forgot to mention, I didn’t know there was a Toyota help line!
     
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    is 10 kwh the available energy, or the total battery?
    are the charged miles and % on the same screen?
     
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    Isn’t that the total charge that can delivered the EV battery when it is new (not really fully charged, though,).
     
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    I've got a '24 with the solar roof and have made similar observations. It’s definitely elusive, and no doubt the miles gained metric is just a user-friendly estimate.

    Toyota likely only knows precisely how much electrical energy the solar panel collects, but can only infer how many miles that might translate to. Hopefully it's based on some calculated personal driving history. But who knows and over what time period might it be averaged?

    Given that the solar panel only charges the EV battery when the car is off, and while driving it helps power 12V accessories (which indirectly improves EV range), you can only wonder how does Toyota tally and report this data on the display and elsewhere as miles. Perhaps the Toyota marketing department was involved?
     
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    I am thoroughly convinced that mine is defective.

    I sure wish others would respond. They are the ones that could prove whether or not mine is different. (Priuschat doesn’t seem to be busy as it used to be back in 2012 when I got my generation #1 Prius PHEV)

    Does anyone know if there is any documentation on the procedure a Toyota technician would use to test the solar roof option? I
     
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    What is the largest increase in total charge percentage that you have seen from a single day of solar charging?
     
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    You can get a cheap short-term subscription to the official repair manual and you'd be reading the exact same things the service tech would be.
     
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    Sorry, I can’t answer your question about the largest solar charge increase by percentage. When I took delivery, the MID display by default showed "EV Energy Remaining" as a percentage, but after discovering I could change it to "EV Distance Remaining" in miles, I preferred that. So, I only focus on EV mile range when driving and only check the battery percentage when I begin and end wall charging.

    How do I know my solar roof is working? Well, on a particularly sunny day at solar noon last month in my part of the world, I did happen to check and saw it deliver the full 185 peak watts that it’s capable of generating.

    And after soaking in that sun, it's all up to the math and software processing that Toyota does with that solar energy and how they choose to feed that energy back into the vehicle and interpret and display it in all their various ways—including showing the remaining battery percentage or the mileage, in my case.

    How about going back to your all-time solar stats? Take the total distance of solar miles driven and divide it by the total kWh. In my case: 128.9 miles / 28.8 kWh = 4.47 mi/kWh. That’s a number I can relate to as representative of my EV range overall.

    However, if I take a short outing today as an example, the solar data says it generated 0.118 kWh of energy, which Toyota then says delivered 0.4 miles. Well, that calculates to 3.39 miles/kWh. That’s way below my actual driving efficiency (even the MID display showed the trip today at 4.1 miles/kWh, in the blazing heat with A/C running and two seats ventilating at the max).

    So, there are all sorts of ways to drive yourself mad with these things, which are hidden behind Toyota’s math, software, and averaging—stuff I’ll never get to see the code for. Who knows, maybe their daily solar numbers aren't accurate?

    Like, did you notice that in the past week or so, the Toyota app now shows battery percentage in a 0-100 range, whereas it was always showing it in a 32-100 range? Toyota made that change on their backend. Why? Perhaps it was wrong and now it's right (or vice versa). I understand and can live with the presentation of that percentage either way. But no need to digress talking about that any further.

    Keep us posted as to your own findings.
     
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    Well, if the panel is only generating 185W and your burning 4.5Kwh per mile - I wouldn't expect much movement - if any on a 10+Kwh battery. Considering you'll need to generate peak output for an hour, just to get 185 whr, multiply that by 10 hours to get a single 1.8 Kwh. Assuming full output for the entire 10 hours, which wouldn't happen unless your above the arctic circle during summer months.

    I don't know what your expectations are - but the math tells the story....

    PS: a third of your traction pack is reserved for hybrid operations, so the ICE will kick on when you reach that level.
     
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