Sea-level doom from Antarctic melting

No need to cut us off, we've sworn it off already.

 

Good thing you are not obsessed by them living rent free between your ears.

Bob Wilson

 

I voted for Obama his first term

I'm not blind to the mistakes Trump makes, but I'm pretty sure Progressives don't even know that Obama presided over the biggest environmental crime and the biggest financial crime in the history of man.

And no, appointed puppet presidents aren't living in my head rent free or otherwise, just here to red pill. But you already took the blue one so it's just here for the dear reader.

 

Whataboutism

 

A tonne is one million grams. Who had the bright idea to use petagrams instead?

 

The fact there are climate deniers, climate enlightened and climate activist, will amount to nothing, we are already past the tipping point, those in the really cold regions will think it's great, until the climate swings become so intense they can no longer buy food because the rain will either be none, or so much it washes the top soil and the crops away.

When I look at my new grandson and granddaughter, what do I say when they are old enough to understand .... sorry isn't going to be enough, we'll be dead because we will be too feeble to tolerate the wild season changes, all the money made by those who profited from it, won't be able to buy any more yrs of living the high life, they certainly aren't setting up a great new world for their offspring ...... so what was/is the point of all of the fairytales about "global cooling" and "it's nothing to do with anything they did", they won't be remembers as the great business tycoons they think they are now, they will be remembered as the greedy generation that made life so difficult for future generations that their names will become curse words ......

The thing that is going to be really hard for so many, "We didn't know" simply won't wash, I'd hate to be one of those labelled a "Climate Denyer" when the tipping point becomes undeniable and the realisation that it's simply too late to fix it .... as the "system" breaks down, the young ones left that have to face what will be a harsh reality, you can bet they won't view those that denied them a rosy future with any sort of compassion, more likely the target of frustration

T1 Terry

 

I've never thought it was a good approach to get all panicked and hysterical about a problem.
I've always had better results from taking it rationally.

 

A thousand grams is a kilo, and a thousand kilos…, yeah, that’s right.

Oy, my brain is full.

 

I'm not sure I'd have a strong preference between "petagram" or "billion tonnes" either way. They're three syllables each and about equally easy to say. As long as I remember my SI prefixes, I know just how many grams a petagram is, without having to first remember how many a tonne is.

I have a feeling that for people who rarely grapple with really big numbers, "petagram" and "billion tonnes" may be about equally hard to grasp, and for people who do that more as a matter of course, they're both about equally easy.

Edit: I guess for older speakers of British English, "billion tonnes" could also lend itself to misinterpretation and "milliard tonnes" might be clearer to them. Or just petagram.

 

So what are Bill Gates, Larry Fink, Jamie Diamond, the Democrats, and the Rinos doing about it? They already moved our industry to China where they build 2 new coal fired power plants per week, and they want to leave it there. They are moving 3rd worlders into the 1st world by the millions so we can have more cars. They want more GMO's and glyphosate so we can finish ruining the topsoil. Gavin Newsom spent $20 Billion in 10 years building a high speed rail bridge to nowhere that's not even 10 miles long. $20 Billion could solve the entire USA homeless problem. Obama dumping a world record amount of crude oil, topping it with chemicals and letting the criminals go free?

It's still only a 150 ppm increase in CO2 over 150 years. And around 1 deg F rise in temp. Nothing compared to what happens naturally. It's entirely possible we are just holding off another ice age, it's actually due.

I hold out hope for the younger generation, Boyan Slat was only 16 years old when he started Ocean Cleanup, the only major entity that's working on cleaning up plastic garbage worldwide.

Bill Gates Larry Fink et al isn't doing anything to fix any of the major environmental problems, they are just making it worse. Their "solution" is to kill everyone off.

 

China has a weird habit of building more junk than the market can afford and then just dumping it. High rises, Houses, bicycles, EV cars, everything gets built and then thrown away, often before even being used

Tell us Tochatihu, how does 2 new coal fired power plants per week fit into your wishes for CO2 reduction? You do know our crooked politicians and corporations intentionally moved our industry to China right?

 

Just that?

Tesla's NY lab is now a museum.
Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe -

He didn't invent free energy, Nikolas just wanted to give it away for free. A notable difference. Morgan and others were hoping for return on their investment, which wouldn't happen with giving it away. So they pulled funding.

Until the swims between pieces of ice get too long.

 

They might lament that part, but still be cool with an increased level of seals.

 

So that is why you cite by name former Presidents no longer in office, Onama/Biden, and by silence approve the sociopath in Chief?

This is consistent with someone who ignores today’s reality by complaining about something that can’t be changed. Works for me as I’m working to get the current rascals out of office. They do not represent my point of view.

Bob Wilson

 

I voted for Clinton, Gore, Obama's first term, was against both Bushes. But the Dems went corrupt. Bernie was the peoples choice on the left and Trump the peoples choice on the right. The Dems stole 2 primaries in a row from Bernie. The Rinos tried to do the same to Trump but he fought back and won.
In 2016 I went to a Sanders rally in Seattle, 20K inside the arena, 20K outside watching the big screens. Wanted to see Hillary but she only had a $3000 a plate dinner in the rich part of town. This is Seattle, the heart of liberalism. Actually Hillary was having trouble filling high school gyms for her public events. They stole 8 states for Hillary to "beat" Sanders, and then in 2020 they stole 5 for Biden. After the 2016 primary steal they had a court case in Florida where the DNC won the right to "chose" their candidate in the primaries. In the 2020 primaries Kamala was at the very bottom in the primaries, don't think she even won 1 elector. And in 2024 they appointed her the Dem candidate without a primary vote.

That's not democracy. Sanders recently made a public statement, saying the Dems haven't had a real primary since 2012. They choose who you get to pick from.
Trump, although compromised due to contributions is the first outsider since Kennedy. Sanders was also an outsider. Kennedy was an insider to start and then went rouge outsider when he went against the Rothschild world bank and the MIC.

Like George Carlin said "it's a big club and you ain't in it."

Fun fact, in his public speeches Obama has mentioned Reagan positively at least a dozen times, he's never mentioned FDR one single time.

 

A frustrated Howard Dean supporter, I've learned to be more selective and local in who I support. I don't know so much about "corrupt" as much as it is like Will Rogers once said:

• “I’m not a member of any organized political party…. I’m a Democrat.”
• “Democrats never agree on anything, that’s why they’re Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they’d be Republicans.”
• “There is only one redeeming thing about this whole election. It will be over at sundown, and let everybody pray that it’s not a tie, for we couldn’t go through with this thing again.And, when the votes are counted, let everybody, including the candidates, get into a good humor as quick as they got into a bad one.Both gangs have been bad sports, so see if at least one can’t redeem themselves by offering no alibis, but cooperate with the winner, for no matter which one it is the poor fellow is going to need it.So cheer up. Let’s all be friends again. One of the evils of democracy is you have to put up with the man you elect whether you want him or not. That’s why we call it democracy.” DT #1953, Nov. 7, 1932
• “If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics” WA # 31, July 15, 1923
• “Politics has got so expensive that it takes lots of money to even get beat with nowadays.” DT #1538, June 28, 1931
• “Politics pretty quiet over the week-end. Democrats are attacking and the Republicans are defending. All the Democrats have to do is promise “what they would do if they got in.” But the Republicans have to promise “what they would do” and then explain why they haven’t already “done it.”I do honestly believe the Republicans have reformed and want to do better. But whether they have done it in time to win the election is another thing. The old voter is getting so he wants to be saved before October every election year.” DT #1917, Sept. 26, 1932
• “This country has gotten where it is in spite of politics, not by the aid of it. That we have carried as much political bunk as we have and still survived shows we are a super nation.” DT #1948, Nov. 1, 1932

Source: Will Rogers on Politics – Will Rogers Today

Sometimes, we have to choose what is "less bad" like when I went into the Marines. Throughly depressed by a failed relationship, the Marines were easier than trying to join the French Foreign Legion (if they still exist.) But I got better and now live a bland, boring life in Dixie.

Bob Wilson​

 

Unfortunately, the seals need the ice to raise their pups.