Sea-level doom from Antarctic melting

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  1. Paul Gregory

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    No need to cut us off, we've sworn it off already.
     
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    “It was "global warming" but they had to change it to "climate change" because it started cooling 10 years ago.”

    @PriusTech invitation received and accepted! I and others post these around here from time to time to clear up misunderstandings. As the timescale mentioned was decades, we could look at data on that:

    https://crudata.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/#:~:text=HadCRUT%20is%20a%20global%20temperature%20dataset%2C%20providing%20gridded,the%20hemispheres%20and%20the%20globe%20as%20a%20whole.

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    https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/?intent=121


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    https://psl.noaa.gov/data/timeseries/month/BERKELEYGLBLT/


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    Is notable because Richard Muller founded the Berkeley Earth Project to look independently at temperature records. Hoping to uncover fudged data (or something along those lines) they instead found confirmation.


    Another US dataset is LMOST but I do not immediately find their current graphic. If any of you do, you will find it similar.


    https://www.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/gwp/temp/ann_wld.html


    Is a less-frequently mentioned analysis, so I enjoy including it:


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    “ … it started cooling 10 years ago.” Any of the brief reductions in recent decades could be called that “it”. I guess.


    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016JD024751

    Contains Figure 2 showing the 2000-year timescale relevant to great human advances:


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    All of these compilations/analyses disclose their data sources, workflows, and funding sources. Some readers will have noticed that alternative views (as shown in earlier posts) lack such transparency. But that has not lowered re-posters zeal.

    “It was "global warming" but they had to change it to "climate change"

    This shift in wording is most often attributed to (then Republican pollster) Frank Luntz circa 1998 writing to Republican leaders that they ought to use this softer term. He is the they. Interestingly he has also ‘reconsidered his position’ as did Richard Muller (above):

    https://thebulletin.org/2019/07/top-republican-message-maker-frank-luntz-calls-for-climate-action/
     
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    I voted for Obama his first term

    I'm not blind to the mistakes Trump makes, but I'm pretty sure Progressives don't even know that Obama presided over the biggest environmental crime and the biggest financial crime in the history of man.

    And no, appointed puppet presidents aren't living in my head rent free or otherwise, just here to red pill. But you already took the blue one so it's just here for the dear reader.

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