Parasitic aux battery drain

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  1. djimbuser

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    I've read somewhere on here that ~57mA is acceptable battery draw when the car is off. This car seems to drain its battery if not driven for about four days.

    During this troubleshooting session the aux battery has had a battery charger connected at all times so its voltage level is fine.

    I've tried disconnected the brake control module in the back and saw no change in the current draw disconnecting or reconnecting.

    I've tried removing relays.. all of the relays under the driver's side dashboard and all of the relays under the hood. Doing that didn't seem to make any difference.

    I located the J6 connector and tried disconnecting the CM and Body ECU wires one at a time and that didn't seem to make a difference. I tried disconnecting the radio.

    What DOES make a difference is disconnecting the DOME fuse however that's not an acceptable solution.

    Watching the current draw it's ~160 mA for typically 24 seconds then it drops down to ~55mA for about 2.5 seconds then goes back up to ~160mA.

    Here's a video to help illustrate this: https://youtube.com/shorts/UUIRHCe7Dco

    Any help is well appreciated.
     
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    It is not outrageously high, although it is still 20-30 mA higher than it should be.
    This would indicate to me that your battery has seen better days. A proper load test will confirm. If your battery test is okay, you might have some a/m accessory that is always on, drawing those few mA.
    If your key fob is more than 3 yards away from the car, then you are not waiting long enough for the car to completely quiesce.
     
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    "Proper" being the key word.
    My Harbor Freight (cheapo) digital battery tester showed my lawn tractor battery was good, but it failed to start even after being on a battery maintainer. Not sure if all digital units are like that.
     
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    The car had been off for more than ten minutes before I recorded that video.

    I'll load test the battery today although I don't think the battery is the root cause even if it tests bad.
     
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    Just curious, do you know how old it is?
     
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    The aux battery? About nine months.
     
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    Yeah, that's not right.
     
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    @djimbuser is 57 milliamps what you measured? If you haven't, in a nutshell:

    Disconnect 12 volt battery's negative connection, run wires from the negative post and car body out over hatch threshold and gently close the hatch on them. Wait 20~30 minutes, with fobs well away from car, then connect a mutimeter set to amps to the ends of those two wires. Set the meter to amps first (just in case draw is massive), then if nothing indicated, switch to milliamps.

    If you're getting high readings, try pulling fuses one at a time, see if any of them drop it, say to the aforementioned 20~30 milliamps.


    ^ Ignore, For starters, see you have taken readings. And @rjparker is more on the ball.
     
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    Wrong

    Your parasitic draw is 160 ma not 55 or 57 ma. This is killing your battery in four days.

    This is where your problem is being feed from so if you want to diy this you have to trace all loads and inputs fed by the Dome fuse. To do so requires accurate wiring diagrams, theory of operation of connected ecus and good test techniques.

    Good test techniques include use of a series connected amp meter with everything off and all doors and hatches closed. Simply have lights out is not enough as ecu can stay awake. Do not rely on a dc clamp meter in these ma ranges.

    Good information shows where the Dome fuse connects to the Combination Meter and Body Ecus. One of these could be staying on. Good theory of operation helps determine which output from those ecus is fed by the Dome fuse. However in many cases of corrosion or failing ecus it may be necessary to measure individual connections.

    With that said a low capacity battery could discharge faster. Low cost load testers put a low load on for split seconds and try to extrapolate what a large load over extended time would do. Better load testers are closer to old school units with big power resistor loads.

    Finally, aftermarket accessories like radios, gps and obd2 devices often cause issues.
     
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    Watch the youtube video link I posted. That's exactly what I have done I'm using a fluke multimeter set on the 10A setting.
     
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    Agree, my oversight. :unsure:
     
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    This battery is not discharging at all for these tests. I have a battery charger connected. The battery capacity test showed about 375CCA at 13V (just came off charger).

    This is a friend's 2007 I'm going to test my daily 2007 in a bit and see how it behaves.

    What makes this 24s 170mA / 2.5s 55mA cycle even stranger is when I go under the hood and pull DOME fuse it's still doing this 26.5 second cycle.
     
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    Would having the battery being actively charged during an amp draw test skew the readings? Just curious, and out of my depth.
     
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    I don't see why it would affect anything. Charge leads are on the battery terminals themselves the positive side is connected to the battery the negative cable is disconnected at the body and the multimeter is completing that connection to monitor current draw.
     
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    Just by opening the door, your 'waking things up'. That's how it is on these new microprocessor driven cars. Test leads needs to be setup before hand and door switches bypassed, so the car's systems remains asleep. You'll still get a pulse every once in a while, SKS search for the FOB. Placing a constant current on the battery, while testing may skew test results. You don't know how the sensors in the car is going to react to that, as you know, some things in the car stays 'awake'.
    The Fluke digital multi-meter takes an 'average' of whatever the probes are reading. ie. you can't find a 'noisy' DC power supply with it - unless your in AC mode. The human brain is a terrible thing to waste.......

    Hope this clears some things up......
     
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    Here's the same test setup on my daily... 17 to 22mA much better. https://youtube.com/shorts/8VOC_2dhLlY

    I guess my next step will be to pull all the fuses from under the driver's side dash.
     
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    To find out the long term parasitic draw it is necessary to wait quite a while. The car does all sorts of odd things after it is turned off, and it goes on for much longer than one might imagine. What I do is open the hatch, stuff a carabiner in the receiver for the latch loop (until it clicks twice), then lock the car. Come back in 20 minutes and make a measurement. Leave the driver side window open and the hood up too. DO NOT FORGET TO REMOVE THE CARABINER BEFORE CLOSING THE HATCH when done!!!

    I used to always see 20-25 mA parasitic draw. Lately I have been making a point of turning off the cabin blower before turning off the car, and it has been in the 10-15 mA range instead. Not sure if that is just because I have been waiting much longer or the climate control system somehow really consumes 10 mA while the car is off. I only noticed it because I have also been doing a long term experiment with a BatteryMinder to see if it can raise the 100% SOC voltage a little, or help with the low 80's SOH. Anyway, so frequently now I am looking at parasitic draw many hours after the car was turned off, and that is much longer than I waited previously.

    Is the alarm system enabled in the OP's car? That causes a flashing LED on the dash. I don't see any variation correlated with that, but if the associated drop resistor on another car had lower resistance the current might be measurable. I can see the current go up and down with a similar LED in our 1998 Accord, but it is only a couple of mA.
     
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    Doors remain closed. The multimeter is at passenger rear seat folded down and I have the window open for easy viewing of the meter. The FOB is at least 30 feet away. I fully understand that opening a door "wakes things up" and if I do open/close a door I go do something else for at least three minutes to observe the current reading at the meter.

    Car locked or unlocked it doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference.
     
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    Under dash driver's side I pulled five fuses to start with: 6,7,8 16 and 17. The current draw went down to ~30mA and stayed there!

    I put the fuses back in one at a time and discovered fuse #8 (ODB) made the current draw go back to 170mA.

    I looked around the ODB port and saw a suspicious cable with two wires cut off and two not cut off. I followed & pulled on the other end of cable and this small black box came out from behind the center area.

    Some sort of cellular gps tracker? Maybe the car was a taxi at one point in its life?

    Well it's been removed and tossed into the garbage and the problem has been eradicated.
     

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    Good sleuthing. (y)

    Googling "mtm powered by svr" is interesting.
     
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