Not surprised. Too bad the dealers that do this cannot be prosecuted for price gouging. Profit is one thing, ridiculous greed is another.
Sad to say, it's supply and demand, folks. :alien: Why do you think prices for gas guzzling are plummeting?
It's supply and demand that the Prii are now more popular. It's GREED that causes dealers to ask $5000 over sticker, and ignorance/desperation that causes people to pay it. :washing:
And is it the same "GREED" that causes customers to purchase a car when the manufacturer throws $5000 on the hood? Is it "ignorance/desperation" for the dealers to sell below MSRP?
Take this for what it is worth.... I have a friend that owns a Prius salvage business. He said that there will not be enought 2009 or 2010 Prius manufactured to outstrip demand. The greatest limitation is that Panasonic cannot manufacture enough batteries. As gas prices go up demand goes up for Prius. He recently sold a 2008 with 16000 miles (salvaged and repaired) for $26,000 to a dealer in California. Good luck to all of you waiting. Congratulations for those of you who have recently purchased. For everyone else you may see something very rare.... a non-vintage car that is worth more that what it's initial purchase price was.
Let me just say that as far as professions go, car salesmen rank right up there with lawyers, meter maids, my boss, oil executives, lobbyists, politicians, and IRS agents for scums of the earth. That said, I can't say I blame these guys for charging over MSRP if the car is the most desirable on the market. Look at the housing market a few years ago. Houses were going well well well ever the asking price and no one complained too much.
Seriously, get over it. This should be a badge of honor to have one. This is how the economy works, scarce resources are valued at the price the market will bear. All car salesman are not scum. One just sold me a new Pkg#2 at MSRP, configured to the color and package I wanted in light of the fact that my previous prius fell victim to a drunk driver. Minimal wait time (12 days). I was legitamately concerned that somone might put a stop to the deal, but it went through. The GM was visibly pained when I produced a $250 dealer coupon with insufficient fine print to invalidate. (When I told him I needed some extra service department time in order to tell Toyota that I was "Very Satisfied" with the dealer experience he was visibly shaken, it felt great) Bottom line here... it's market conditions. If you are prudent you can still find a square deal, but a lot of people are paying a premium for what is, in fact a premium vehicle. Long live the free market! With a little good legislative guidance it's the best system we have to allocate resources.
I wish I could have paid that cheep for the 2 that I have. $36,500 for a 2008 new one - touring package $33,500 for a 2008 used - 2K KM No Nav No Camera No Leather
Los Angeles: $30,800 package 6 (non-touring)(before taxes). Dealer options include chrome wheels and window tint. Purchased off allocation list June 22nd -- car fully paid to ensure the car is mine!!! Expected to arrive at the LA port on July 3 . . .Dealer claims I will have the car within 2-15 days after port arrival. :target:
In 2006 I couldn't get a Prius in No Cal without a long wait and the usual mark up. I phoned a buddy of mine who is a Toyota sales guy in Las Vegas, and got mine a few weeks later at MSRP. Flew to LV for a $100 or so, and drove it back. The dealer gave me all the paperwork, and I just had to go to the DMV to register and pay sales tax in CA. In 2006 there was a big crunch to get a license plate for the carpool sticker, some folks had to wait for weeks and months to get theirs. I walked out of the DMV with my plates in hand. Bottom line is CA seems to value hybrids more than other states, so for a little effort you can save a lot of wait time and some $$ to boot. SHop around, SOCal is pretty close to vegas so you even have an excuse for a good time
I bought my pkg#2 Prius in January 2008. Since I got it, a good friend has been asking me all kinds of questions about it. She just called me and told me she went to get one (trade in a Suburban) and there is a 6-8 month wait in Southeastern CT/RI area. Also, all dealers now tack on $3000-$4000 to MSRP. She bought a 2007 pkg#2 REPOSSESSION with 29,000 miles for $27000 !!! Ouch.
Because after all, a Prius is a necessity of life, just like food, water, plywood during hurricanes, iPods, and free MP3s.
wow now I feel special that I bought my Prius in April. Got a package 6 touring for $27,000 and now I could sell it for 34k with the 6k miles I added!! I love the free market!
What would you rather have? $5K over MSRP (what does that "S" stand for?) and a two-week wait, or paying MSRP and a six month+ wait? It's not price gouging if there's still a two week wait.
week before x-mas in 2006 i purchased a 2007 package 6 in so-cal for around 26k... AND got some of the last carpool stickers. i consider myself lucky. i was right after the huge demand and they shipped a lot of new ones to the lots, sales were starting to fizzle out until word spread the carpool stickers were going fast. then the demand rose when gas prices rose and they are still up there now.
Ridiculous greed?? Who? What? Where? Where on Earth do you get the notion you can even suggest what a dealer prices HIS inventory, on HIS car lot, HIS risk, etc.?? Are we to set up the pricing police? Does this mean conversely you will guarantee me a "fair" price for my used SUV? You're a smart guy. Why don't you go into the car business. It's real easy. Purchase 20 acres or so of land (4-10 million dollars) on a busy highway. Build a multimillion dollar showroom. Hire a crew of 100 to 200 people to man that facility. Pay insurance, workers comp, taxes to every governmental agency on a regular basis, purchase (using a loan from the bank at at least 8% interest) perhaps 10 million or so dollars of automobiles from Toyota (and you better move them fast because nobody wants last years model). Yea, real easy. Then YOU can sell Priuses and all your inventory for a "fair" price. Let's start at below invoice. Don't worry about profits. After all, you'll just be another big, evil business that actually prints money in the back room. That's what Exxon and Haliburton do. Then you could sleep at night knowing you are not a slimy greedy dealer who dares ask above MSRP or any threshold above MSRP that YOU determine to be too much! Rick #4 2006