Do New Bulbs Save Energy if They Don’t Work?

I blame it on all that calculus I had to take in college.

Huh, they tested nuclear weapons in Lake Michigan?

Yep, I was there on a somewhat related contract. Not that scary, I figured if anything went Tango Uniform it would be over pretty quickly anyway

 

So, does anybody have an opinion on all those abandoned FUDS in Canada that have *not* been cleaned up? Or is that best handled in another thread?

 

was ist ein FUD?

 

Now I know that helmet is too tight. You have gone from American to English to German. Add a Prussian spike to it.

Tom

 

Der "Formerly Used Defense Site"

Verstehen sie?

 

Here is an example of a Cold War radar site, the Mid Canada Line station at Winisk, Ontario. The site is almost on the shore of Hudson's Bay. According to reports, a high level of DRO, RRO, GRO, BTEX, and PCB contamination.

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskmap.jpg

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk5.jpg

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk6.jpg

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk7.jpg

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk-60.jpg

It was abandoned in the mid 1960's, and to this day just sits there

A 1998 photo of the hanger

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk9.jpg

At one time, it was common to airlift in barrels of DFA (Diesel Fuel - Arctic) to radar sites. The barrels were just dumped in place

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskpic20.jpg

The station sign is still standing

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskpic30.jpg

Most of the interior rooms are in surprisingly good shape, considering they've been sitting abandoned for 45 years

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskpic31.jpg

The base had it's own airfield as it was a "sector control" base, which tendered the remote doppler sites

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskpic42.jpg

Another view of the control tower

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskctltwr.jpg

The fire hall is still standing, with 50's vintage fire trucks still parked inside

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk11.jpg

Barracks are still standing

http://www.lswilson.ca/winisk14.jpg

All the 50's vintage electronics gear - full of mercury and pcb's - is left in place

http://www.lswilson.ca/mcl-415a.jpg

This is the extent the Canadian federal government and Ontario provincial government have gone to to ensure the "safety" of the area

http://www.lswilson.ca/winiskpic43.jpg

 

Interesting - I have the opposite experience. I bought a handful of n:Vision spotlights from Home Depot and they are very dim when turned on and take about 30 seconds to generate good light. Haven't tried any GE bulbs.

On the other hand, I bought a bunch of Feit spirals from Costco (got about a dozen for $6) and these all turn on with nearly full brightness and are some of the best I've used.

So I wonder if the n:Vision non-enclosed CFLs are OK for some reason... the spots I have just have a normal looking spiral CFL on the inside.

 

where's me monocle like?

 

Ach! Das ist not eine booby!

 

Ja!



Smirk snicker snicker ...

 

What was the original topic again???

 

Sheep.

Tom

 

Gotcha.

Baaaaaaaaaaaa

 

Uh-oh. Tom, good luck explaining THAT to the wife ....

 

How many plush, white, wool coats have you bought your wife over the years?

 

That's a good question

 

Nice booby! :rockon:

 

Actually, no, you did not, the globes and spotilights suck in all CFL variants I've tried as I've stated several times. You are making an apples to oranges comparison. Note that Tripp has reported good results with some globe Panasonics coming on at full intensity (that I have not tested), so there is hope that eventually we will see more decent makes available in these enclosures. Therefore, it appears that there is not a good technical reason for the problem, just inferior design choices. Same is true for the non-instant on behavior of GE's and many other brands of CFL's--an inferior design choice.

The n:vision non-enclosed CFL's work great, the best I've tested in terms of instant-on and full brightness. Nearly all of my "workhorse" standard CFL's are n:vision now. So far the life of them appears to be good, although I had a bad package about 4 years ago when they were still labeled "Commercial Electric" that failed in a very short time--warranty replacements from the store are still going strong. I do notice a faint high pitched electrical hum in some of the n:visions. I've got around 40 n:visions in service at the moment in soft white with a few bright whites, and in 40, 60, and 100W equivalents.

Also, the n:visions are shorter than the GE's, so they fit more applications. The Sylvania micro-mini's are even smaller in both length and diameter and are very good CFL's in their own right. They are a hair slower/less consistent on instant-on than the n:visions and some come up a bit below full illumination, although not objectionably so like the enclosure type CFL's I've tested.

 

One thing about Jay, he knows his boobies!