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2005 Prius w bad hybrid cell

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Aryiana, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. Ogo

    Ogo Prius Owner since 2008

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    Also a bit of my thinking. New battery with installation costs 3 k $. What is the price of new equivalent Prius currently? Most probably above 23k $, so let say around 24k, which brings 3 k $ to around 1/8 or 12.5% of the price of the new car.
    So you can see this battery failure as the 12.5% price increase of the new car. But with this price increase you will also probably gain additional 150 k miles of your car life. So it is not all bad.

    We all know that battery in Prius will die. On some sooner, on some later. 150 k miles is not so bad in my opinion.

    If you buy a modern VW diesel car, you will probably have some major component failure during this time anyway. Usually the turbo charger, but also other stuff usually dies in a typical VW TDI car. Not to mention higher costs of maintenance.

    Also few technical questions of mine:
    How was the car driven? Mixed terrain, hilly roads, flat highways, city driving ...

    So keep us posted and good luck of course. ;)
     
  2. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    Rubbish. Data show no such thing. The OP was merely one of the unlucky few.
     
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    Rubbish what? He is just one of the unlucky ones that fall into the statistic of failure.

     
  4. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    Perhaps I was hasty: you gave the failure rate as 50% after the warranty expires. How do you define failure rate? It's certainly not 50% per ensuing year; 50% per ensuing decade, maybe.
     
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    Duffy's Taxi in Winnipeg does not agree with that. They have a large fleet of Prius as taxi's, with several needing battery replacement. Overall the fuel savings more than pay for a small handful of failures, though it sucks when statistics conspire against you

    Consider that for a taxi fleet, there is no way in hell they'd get +150,000 miles out of a Crown Vic transmission. In hard city use, they will replace quite a few in the fleet.

    Overall, the Prius holds up well, even in Winnipeg with -40 winters, and horrible road conditions. They are usually totalled in crashes involving stolen cars driven by joyriding punks
     
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    Hi All,

    So, we are talking cost of Ownership. Lets see, $3000/156000miles is $.0192 per mile. Having that battery in there results in getting 50 instead of 25 mpg. So, over 156000 miles that saves 3120 gallons. Using an average of $3.00 per gallon since 2005 we get $9360 saved over 156000 miles, or $.06 per mile saved.

    Putting it altogether, even if Aryiana buys the new battery, and the car gets into an accident the next day, she still has saved (.06 - .0192 - .0192)*156000 or $3837.60. Or more than enough for even a third battery and still come out economically ahead!

    So, I do not see the reason to carp about the lifetime of the Prius battery in this situation. The original battery in there car saved $9360 in gas, but cost $3000 installed new (presumably). Right now, they are $6360 ahead. If they put in the new battery at $3000 they will get back to $6360 total savings in only another 50000 miles at $3.00 per gallon average cost, and 75000 miles at $2.00 per gallon. I am sure there are plenty of people out there willing to buy Aryiana's car sans battery and take that bet.

    Oh, Aryianna, be sure to put $500 away for new brakes. At 156000 miles your about due for your first brake job on that car.
     
  7. Frayadjacent

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    Donee, factor in the fact that the car is driven for work/business and a considerable portion of that mileage (should have been) is tax deductible, or that mileage compensation is probably paid by her husband's employer, furthering the savings in your comparison dramatically.