Toyota's Yaris Hybrid introduced in Germany

Isn't it just the Prius C?

 

No, they are on the same platform, engine, and hsd, but there are substantial differences in body and interior. There are many past threads about the differences. The main advantage of the car is since it is made in europe, it can avoid tariffs that the prius c would need to pay. This advantage doesn't help in other countries

 

Aber:
VW Polo BlueMotion: 16.900,00 €
Yaris Hybrid: ab 16.950,00 €

(Mann kann das Polo BlueMotion nur mit 5-gang kaufen. )

 

Where's the diesel pricing come in?

 

it is priced the same as Yaris Diesel in Europe, but has a little bit more equipment (for instance AT instead of MT which is another $2k in Europe).

This is first Hybrid that is priced same as Diesels and Toyota expects whopping 20% of Yarii sold as Hybrid... Thats around 40-50k a year.

 

It is sold in The Netherlands, in 3 different versions.

 

In the thread "Yaris Hybrid Reviews", you'll find all relevant information. The regular Yaris is Toyota's best seller in Europe, contrary to the US. Hybrids are seeing modest successes so far, governents promoting Diesel engines even in subcompacts!!! It is now available in all the European countries. Test reports from press people, but also numerous normal drivers who test-drove it are quite positive. Very few did not like it.

I also test-drove it during 2 1/2 hours. It only had 360 km (200 miles) on the counter.



Basically, it feels more lively then my Prius 2. Steering is lighter and more direct. The suspension is a bit stiff, but movements well contained. It is very dynamic in town. Silence when coasting is terrific. It is striking how often it drives by itself with the ICE shut down. The ICE has a different sound then that of the Prius, and sometimes becomes loud. One gets used to that. I made it go 90 miles/h easy on the Autobahn, but would not like using it for long commutes. The front seats are very nice, and space in the back is great for such a small car. Trunk space is preserved.

I did not like much the Toyota Touch screen because it is very reflective and displaced too much to the right. I could not see well the energy flow animation because it is too small. The Prius C system looks more informative.

During the 40 miles highway at 100 - 120 km/h (65 - 75 miles/h), it consumed 4,1 l/100 km (57 MPG).



Most impressive, I managed 3.4 l/100 km 69 MPG in town (Strasbourg) on my dayly stretch to work (13 km or 8 miles).

The engine was warm, the wheather warm and pleasant. I did not manage to P & G with pedal control, and since I never do it on my Prius 2, I did not think of doing it in N. At the lower speeds in town, that could lower consumption significantly. Shifting between D and N is very convenient with the shifter that is well placed.



Toyota just reported it got 900 orders during the first two days of open doors at launch. This will become a hot seller.

Jan

 

I still have to book a test drive. I also want to test drive the +/alpha/v.
The Yaris Hybrid is available also in Italy and Spain. I think it is simply available everywhere were the Yaris is regularly available. It is built in the Valencienne plant in France.
The hybrid also in Italy (like in Germany) is priced the same as the diesel version, with some additional features for the hybrid. In Germany, BTW, the Yaris Hybrid will pay only 30€/year in tax (the Prius pay 36€) - a diesel will pay 113€.
I have seen a few video reviews/first impressions on You Tube. It is amazing how much ignorance there is about the HSD and the nonsense way they put the hybrid system "to test". Also a *lot* of misplaced expectations. A reviewer from Holland complained that the car brakes *extremely* unevenly. To me, he was faking it.
I think Jan is the first decent "hands-on" review I have read so far...

 

PS: in Italy, since it is full summer holiday season, the Hybrid version can be ordered but will be delivered starting from September. In Germany they started selling already due to a different summer holiday calendar.
The Prius + is also already available in Germany, and will be, like for the Yaris, in Italy. The Plug-in Prius will be available in Germany/Italy after summer.

 

pricing in dutch! from 19 xxx eurossssss?!?!!?
and germany 16 xxx ??!!

 

? on Toyota.nl the base version of the Yaris Hybrid is 17,990€ (what is the VAT in the Netherlands???). In Italy is 17.500€ (21% VAT), in Germany (19% VAT) 16.950€ and in Spain (what VAT???) 18.200€ (what should they say?).
Assuming they all offer the *same* options in the base version, they essentially all cost the same (although in some countries there are 3 versions and like in Spain, only 2) - we need to thank the different VATs rates for the differences. Welcome to Europe...

 

In France, the base version (called Dynamic) costs 18500 Euro, 20.5 % VAT included. But the government donates a 2000 Euro Bonus (5000 Euro for an EV car, Renault coming with its Zoé EV in September), and a TMC bonus of 600 Euro is added to that ! So one can get it for 16000 Euros. Cars ordered now will be delivered only in October, depending on color and extra options ordered.

Some have already been delivered to several customers, who ordered it before even test-driving it. The reactions resemble very much those I read here with regard to the Prius C. I think Toyota could very well sell both models in Europe.

Toyota also has an appealing promotion campaign. The Yaris will be a big success, no doubt, and the quesion is how long the CVT 1.3 l 100 PS version and the 98 PS Diesel version will stay on the market. The 1,3 l 100 PS and 1.0l 68 PS manual gearbox models will stay for those who are allergic to automatic drives, or di not drive that much in crowded towns.

Jan

 

16,000 doesn't sound bad at all for european prices, but why is france giving such a big subsidy? You would think everything would become hybrids with that much money.

I can't imagine anyone in france would buy the 1.3 gas engine, only hybrids and manual diesels.

 

1. The Yaris is made in the North of France, where its factory provides a lot of labour. The crisis in Europe is hitting very strongly the sales of compacts and sub-compacts. Toyota will licence temporay workers, and hopes the success of the Yaris will help limit that need. Other countries too give incentives. Typically, Germany does not, since they have nothing to offer but their Diesel and small gas turbo engines that are becoming quite popular. VW also has its popular 7speed DSG gearbox, which provides a more usual handling to its user, and the german press is outspoken anti-Toyota. Things will change as soon as VW launches the hybrid and plug-in versions of the Golf.

2. You are right. In France, people will continue for a long time buying manual Diesels, even if they drive less then 10000 mi/year, and do a lot of town and sub-urbs. The 1.3 manual gas engine is for those doing too little mileage and mostly medium long distances to go to work (15 miles here).
Recently, the WHI (World Health Organisation) issued a reports that confirms the particles emitted by Diesels, especially those unfiltered by the particle filter, are cancerogenic. The press echoed this a lot. It may have a small impact in the long run...

You may recall that in Europe, most people drive a compact or subcompact, and very few with automatic gearbox. The Hybrids are considered as something for Ecofreaks or Tecnolovers. I follow this topic because it will be fascinating to see whether this time, a car maker can change very solid habits. The lobbies of the automakers, joined by the majority of the press is doing everything to try and slow this movement.

Jan

 

Just confirming that Benzin is indeed the German word for Gasoline (Benzin as it's spelled in the Toyota website you linked, not Beinzine as you wrote - the German spelling doesn't have a final e unlike a similar English word that describes a different petrochemical).

 

In Poland base version is 65,100 zloty which translates to a touch over 15,000 Euro.
I put an order for the top version (all the toys - cruise control, 16" wheels, backup camera,
tinted rear windows, SmartKey, to mention just a few).
Total cost 71,900 zl = 16,800 Euro. Expected delivery by the end of next month, July.

Greetings,
Jerzy.

 

Thats cheap
Poland already part of the eu?
-Htc Tapatalk ( sorry for auto spell correct )

 

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