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2019 RAV4 and RAV4 Hybrid

Discussion in 'Toyota Hybrids and EVs' started by Tideland Prius, Mar 28, 2018.

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  1. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    lol. They do that in the UK for sports cars - (but then instead of drilling, it ends up on the hood or the top of the bumper instead of the forward-facing part of the bumper)
     
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    TX doesn't require stickers on plates.The stickers go on the driver's side windshield, as far down as you can get them.

    Tolling is all open road and red light cameras take pictures of rear plates, which have some interesting holographic features embedded in them. I don't know nefarious purposes LEO uses those for

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    You have a (big) front sticker though ;)
     
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    Actually 31 states require front plates, I'm amazed Tesla doesn't provide a front plate kit, wondering if the holes aren't drilled but the t-nuts are installed for plate bolts.
     
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  5. Tideland Prius

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    It's interesting that the folks over at RAV4 World didn't already know that the RAV4 Hybrid is the quickest model (Gen 4) given it has 194hp over the standard 176hp and the electric motor torque offsets the extra weight, beating the 172lb-ft (at a pretty low 4,100rpm actually) of the current gen RAV4.

    The biggest improvement on the hybrid (aside from mpg of course) will be the 30% extra power for the rear wheels. The current R4h doesn't have the same capabilities as the gas version. No electronic locking diff and of course a rather weak rear motor. According to Alex on Autos, the power distribution is, at best, 70/30 front/rear for the hybrid. A back-of-the-napkin math of +30% means the power distribution could be 55/45 front/rear. Still can't beat the torque vectoring system on the Gen 5 gas model but at least it can handle something more than just a slippery intersection.
     
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    Power distribution is only part of the equation. The other is the time that AWD can be sustained. A 55/45 split isn't going to help much on a beach if the system can only sustain it for short bursts.
     
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    This is where Toyota needsto wake up and put a real battery pack and a plug to fix this.
     
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    pluggggg innnnn...

    I wonder if Toyota can put two Prime batteries in series and hook it up to a RAV4.
     
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    If they put them in parallel they could use the same motors but double the range. If the batteries are in series that doubles the voltage meaning new motors and some ECUs need to be designed.
     
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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Ahh oops. As you can tell, I'm not an EE haha.
     
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    The other thing Toyota is stupid is that they were already helping Subaru to put the Prius Prime EV system for Subaru's PHEV.... they could just have their team double up on the Rav.

    I had high hopes for Toyota, guess I will have to buy a Subaru then.
     
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    Suburu may not license the whole HSD system. Ford only licensed parts of HSD for their hybrid, for instance.
     
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    What evidence do you have that they are not?

    Toyota tends to remain very quiet about releases until they are ready to actually roll out.
     
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    According to the press, Subaru is taking most of Prius Prime except the ICE.
     
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    Toyota is known to trademark everything they are working on. And nothing there.

    I can bet they we will not see a 2019 Phev Rav.... want to bet on it? One year suspension on PriusChat for the loser?
     
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    Why get your knickers in a twist? Toyota owns 16.48% of Subaru.

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    "Prime" is already trademarked.
     
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  18. Tideland Prius

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    We're assuming they're not.

    This.

    Well, we're assuming they're using Prime. They could follow Mitsubishi and just name it the RAV4 PHEV.
     
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    Or RAV4 PHV like they use for the Prime in Europe.
     
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    "Limited Warranty"

    "The hybrid-related components, including the HV battery, battery control module, hybrid control module and inverter with converter, are covered for eight years/100,000 miles. In applicable states, hybrid-related component coverage is 15 years/150,000 miles with the exception of the hybrid battery, which is covered for 10 years/150,000 miles."

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    I wasn't aware that some of the parts are 15 year???

    Is this new or has it always been this way in CARB States?

    All this time I thought it was 10 year/150 miles.
     
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