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No illumination on wheel, turn signal arm, etc

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by jbct, Jun 22, 2018.

  1. jbct

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    Hello, a newbie here. Just bought a 2008 Prius Touring. At night, none of the lights on the steering wheel light up like the climate control, etc. Nothing on the turn signal arm lights up like the wiper switch, etc. The power window switches don't light up not even the small hyphen mark ( I read the manual about the lock). The dashboard/instrument panel lights are all fine. Is this a fuse or relay problem? I'm sure these items should be illuminated at night once the headlights are turned on.
     
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    must be a fuse. check the manual for location, if there is one just for the lighting.
     
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    Does the dash dimmer work? If not, check the 7.5A fuse marked "Panel" under the steering wheel (marked #16 in the wiring diagram, but go with the marking on the fuse cover.) When the Panel fuse is blown the combo meter and MFD go to full bright and stay there, all the other lights go out. If the dimmer is bad, you would get the same.
    Turn on the car, turn on the headlights, roll the dimmer wheel down. If there is no change in light on the combo meter, look at the Panel fuse.
     
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    Is anything on the stalk supposed to light up? I don't think mine does, but I don't have a Gen 2. In any case, you might want to make sure before considering that part a problem.

    I do think there is supposed to be illumination in the wheel pad and the window switches.

    If it were me I would just start with the wiring diagram and figure out what circuits are involved, where the connectors are, etc., and start checking key places with a meter. "A fuse" or "a relay" could be possibilities (I would not assume there'd be a whole relay dedicated just to the wheel and window lights and none of the other illumination that still works, but that's one of the many questions the wiring diagram could clear up for you) but only two possibilities among many. "A fuse" is pretty much the one answer that's never an answer, because even if you happen to find one blown, that just tells you your problem is to find what blew it.

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    Update to my problem - when I turn on the headlights, the steering wheel back lights do light up IF I turn off the "Day Mode" on the screen.
     
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    No lights in the stalk and lighting under the buttons is extremely dim. Does the combo meter go from full bright to half and then dim as you roll the dimmer wheel to practically nothing?
     
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    Here is the diagnostic for the dimmer and illumination. The LEDs are connected to a fuse on the positive side, and the combo meter on the negative side. If the dimmer operates, then the fault is either bad wiring (the diagnostic shows which connectors to test) or the combo meter itself would need to be replaced. However, the LEDs are so dim, that you can barely see them even at night!
    There is a member who took apart the combo switch on the steering wheel and replaced the LEDs with much brighter blue LEDs.
    Blue led dash conversion
     

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    If I turn off the "Day Mode" on the screen, the lights on the steering light up but not the wiper or turn signal arms nor the power window buttons except for the "Auto" which lights up brightly.
     
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    That sounds correct, there are no lights or LEDs in either the turn signal or wiper stalks, only in the buttons on the face of the steering wheel. According to the wiring diagram, the lights/LEDs are in:
    Key Slot
    Main Switch (Parking switch)
    Power Switch
    Shift Lever
    Radio
    Clock
    Combo Meter

    YMMV
     
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    Is the radio replaced by an aftermarket one?

    My steeringwheel doesn't light up and I think it is since I replaced the OEM stereo. There are more threads about this but still haven't taken the time to get to the bottom of this.

    This in no way rules out the fuse possibility, but just an extra thing to consider ;)