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Puzzling P3018 error code.

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by 4priusowner, Oct 6, 2018.

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  1. 4priusowner

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    oh oh dumb me OP, yes I'm the OP, okay I will check with the dealer in Conshohocken and other dealers I will also check out Harry's U-Pull It thanks for the info and yeah I will keep all you posted on what's going on thanks for all your help. I have one more question I mentioned in the original post that she mentioned that the car is accelerating it's not accelerating but the 1.5 liter motor increases rpms revs up trying to keep the battery charged is that normal when this happens a p3018 code?

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    Normal ;).

    When a battery is weak, it taxes the engine, causing it to run more and mpg to decrease :(.

    Good luck and keep us posted (y).
     
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    Thank you very much. Is it dangerous to keep driving it with the lights keep coming on and resetting the error code p 3018 or P0A80 with an application like Torque? As my daughter doesn't have another car while we resolved what we're going to do.

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    That is @2k1Toaster ’s site. Several people here including some hybrid experts have had success with his kit. Perhaps there is still some unsold in the delivery he receives tomorrow.
     
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    Thank you I will check with them.

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    There is somebody else selling a similar kit with the same cell mounting. I understand their cells do not meet the stated capacity. @2k1Toaster works with rechargeable batteries every day and knows how to properly test them.
     
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    He just posted and they actually arrived on Friday.

    See this post
     
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    YES!

    1) There may be a moment when she needs immediate acceleration, but can NOT due to the battery not being able to do its job. She is a danger to herself and everyone else on the road. Remember, the electric motor and gas engine work TOGETHER. A HV Battery in poor shape won't be able to provide the energy for the electric motor to do its job. The gas engine by itself can NOT provide 100% of the power the car needs.

    2) Continuing to operate the vehicle with a dying HV battery WILL LEAVE HER STRANDED in the very near future. Think of a worst case scenario to be stranded: busy freeway, on a curve, poor visibility (rain, fog, etc), where inattentive drivers (damn smart phones) may not be able to react in time. Is this what you want? Is this what she wants? Maybe you both like unnecessary stress?

    Rent a car for 2-3 days. Pick-up a new OEM HV Battery from Conicelli Toyota, and be done. Proven OEM HV battery reliability for 8-10+years. Assuming the dealership will sell to you, tell them you will do will call pick-up. Your billing address in PR, might save you sales tax; don't tell them your daughter is in the State. You're picking up here and driving across State line.

    Many people balk at the relatively BIG price tag, of the HV battery, when the vehicle might be worth $zero. But they fail to look at all the variables: new HV Battery vs new/used car payments & interest (if financing), HV Battery is movable to a Gen2/3, and possibly Gen4. If you can DIY, it is very compelling and cost effective. Amortize the HV battery cost over its likely life expectancy, it is very affordable. $1699.70/10years = $169.97/year = $14.16/month (don't drink Starbucks 3x's every month) = $0.47/day (using 30days).

    Don't forget, you can call other local dealers to see if they will sell to you (OTC) and pricematch/beat Conicelli Toyota.

    Good luck & best wishes.
     
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    Thank you I agree and we already discussed it and she will rent a car. Will call the dealers tomorrow. Thank you all again for all your help and I will keep you posted. I feel better getting a proven Toyota battery as the car is in perfect condition and can last many more years and she loves it vs the new technology especially of I can pick it up and avoid the core charge and tax.

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    You may want to deal w/ a core return.

    The OEM HV Battery does not come 100% assembled. Some components (ECUs) have to get transfered from old pack into new pack. This can be accomplished easier and w/ less stress at home vs dealer parking lot.
     
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    good point I didn't realize that I thought it would be like a Dorman battery where they just give you the whole battery and you don't change anything out you just swap one for one.

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    Does the Dorman battery look any different than OEM? If so they may not accept it as a core.
     
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    Dormat HV batteries are painted orange. The dealership is not to accept it as a core.

    If OP existing case is not the original factory finish of UNpainted metal, he will,have to transfer the internals between cases to get a core refund. Just a little bit more work.
     
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    Mine is original. I was speaking about my son's 2006 which was purchased with a Doorman which was under warranty and failed after 2 years and was replaced under warranty from Doorman through Pep Boys and all I did was take that one out, take it to Pep Boys and they gave me a complete replacement and I just put it in and off we go. Yes it was orange.


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    Checking with dealer found that I have to do the order online pay the total + the 1350.00 and specify it as a will call pick up at that dealer. They say it will take a day.

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    have purchased a new battery but I have not put it in yet I've been away all week and my daughter says since it's gotten cold the car has not thrown any codes at all and I did a new analysis and I will post it please tell me what you think does this kind of thing or the 3018 and the P0A80 codes come more so when it's warm weather and air conditioning is on and not
    so much when it's cold please tell me what you think and does this battery look like it needs to be changing I have rhe new
    one and keep in mind the old analysis that I sent to you right after I had charge the battery for 19 hours on the prolong battery charger and now this. Screenshot_2018-10-17-23-02-36.jpeg

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    By the way while posting this last message after doing the analysis with my software and getting those results that you see above the codes popped on the lights came on and it was a P0A80 and a p3018 again so apparently it's still throwing the codes depending on how long keep it on and the air conditioner or heater has to be on while doing the test. and it was 50 degrees Fahrenheit outside while doing it and it's been cold for the last 4 days and they saying it hasn't been throwing codes but they're not using air conditioner or heater. Again what do you think?

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    You have to group them in matching pairs. In time it take to discharge using a headlight. Then charge them in parallel to the same value somw where around 7.7v so the car won't charge them higher any more and discharge them a little they will stay balanced
    I charged to 7.9v to find the leaky cells pull all and put on paper so I can see the leaks all my battery tested the same voltage and resistance but in time there was a big difference in hold fast they dropped. This is why the need to be matched pairs
    Or one will go higher and fail 1539574147168.jpeg

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    No I was just asking your opinion of the latest analysis. Yes I did change it to the new one yesterday and now it is like a new car. It was just that last analysis I did showed better but the code still came out. I just wanted to know if tje batteries work better i. Cold than hot outside temperture or with the ac or heat on pitting extra drain on the hybrid cells. I am very happy with the decision to cha ge it out and I eill be posting videos of the work for others to see. Thank you all again for all your help.

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