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2007 oil consumption and oil smell

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by MattLTH, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. MattLTH

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    At the end of 2018, I noticed the smell of combusted oil coming from the tailpipe of my Prius. I first noticed it from inside the cabin whenever I'd stop at a red light, presumably because the vapors wafted into the ventilation air intake. I'd also noticed my oil consumption was increasing, and had been ever since I passed the 100k miles mark (about a quart every 5k miles.) When I took it to my mechanic, he replaced the PCV valve and changed the oil with 5W30 synthetic. Ever since I bought the car brand new, I've used 5W30 dino oil, so the move to synthetic was something new.

    Since then the combusted oil smell has persisted. I don't see blue smoke coming from the tailpipe even in below freezing temperatures. It's also not an oil leak inside the engine comparment because that would be a different smell.

    My question is: What could be causing so much oil to be burned, and is there something other than using heavier oil or additves (like Lucas Oil products) I should be looking into? Is it time to look for a rebuilt engine? Thanks in advance.
     
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    Thanks, audiodave. That's correct: No red triangle of death or any other warning indicators.
     
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    There's members that burn more on here that don't mention the exhaust actually smelling. CE light should come on if it does I would think. Warmed up it's that way?

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    Yes, even when the car has been driven for 20 minutes or more and the coolant has reached 186ºF, it still has that smell. It happened last summer and continues now that it's winter.
     
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    1 qt every 5000 is pretty mild. If you change your oil every 5000 miles, you probably don't even have to top up the oil. Many people burn a lot more than that.

    Have you changed your spark plugs?
     
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    Yes, spark plugs were replaced at 120k miles, which was 18k miles ago.
     
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    No, the exhaust system is tight. The mechanic said so, and I did the old ‘over the tailpipe with a rag while the engine is running’ trick and it seemed to maintain pressure.
     
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    Clean the MAF sensor and throttle body?
     
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    sometimes parking under trees departs massive LEAF accumulation that blocks THAT cabin air intake
    thus clearing out the hood vents under the wiper blades when lifting the engine hood.
    also consider swapping out both the CABIN & ENGINE air filters (both have a shelf life ~ 1yr/ 12,000 miles)
     
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    JC: Thanks, I'll clean the MAF and throttle body. I appreciate your advice.

    Prius_Angie: Thanks for the recommendation. The cabin and engine filters have both been regularly replaced at recommended intervals. There are no leaves in either air intake.
     
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    Dumb question: the oil filler cap is on?

    I did this once, with a previous car...
     
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    @Mendel Leisk: Yes, always good to check the basics. The cap is on snuggly.
     
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    Oil is probably leaking pass the piston rings. Need to perform leak down test to confirm.
     
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    This is not a rare problem. Check around the website the majority of Prius with over 100,000 miles burn oil. It due to a bad design of the pistons and rings.
     
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    Smelly exhaust and no check engine light is a new one though.

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    Just to put a button on this thread, it turns out my exhaust manifold was cracked and needed to be replaced. That wasn't a fun repair to pay for. (Just over $1K.) But that's what was causing the foul smell when the car wasn't moving. Because the manifold is underneath the cabin air inlet, the fresh air setting would draw the leaking exhaust vapors into the cabin. It was so rich that I erroneously identified the smell as that of burning oil. While both the mechanic and I initially felt like the exhaust system was without a leak (rag-over-the-tailpipe test), a closer inspection revealed the cracked manifold. It has since been replaced and the smell is gone.

    As for the oil consumption, it seems to be a lot lower. I know if has nothing to do with the cracked manifold, but I did run some Sea Foam in the crankcase for about 500 miles before the last oil change. While I haven't quite put 5K miles on it since the last change, the reading on the dipstick is much higher than it had been. According to what I've read (on the internet, so it must be true), the rings on various Toyota models tend to get clogged, which can result in noticeably higher oil consumption. Running the Sea Foam in the oil before a change is supposed to knock the gunk out of the rings. I'll post more complete results the next time the oil is changed.

    Thanks for everyone's help,

    MattLTH
     
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    Nice to hear the follow up and fix! The sound wasn't any louder with that leak?


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    The engine is more quiet now. I think the manifold crack must have opened gradually and the increase in engine noise crept up slowly. It was never really loud, just different. I wish it had been louder because that would have prompted me to take corrective action sooner.
     
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