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Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by bisco, Jul 22, 2019.

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  1. bisco

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    yeah, i think they're either lying or clueless
     
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    ...or both. :whistle:
     
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    it is overkill, if none of your car batteries crank the engine
     
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    there's a guy on youtube, 'mercedessource' who uses a second battery to 'trick' a dead agm that won't take a charge.
    he jumps the agm with another car battery, and puts the charger on the second battery.
     
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    When the battery backup costs more than the battery? Yeah, that's a sign. ;) :D
     
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    OK, that one is overkill for PRIME and other hybrids. I thought larger capacity may come handy if I need it as an emergency power bank to charge other things like laptop or phones, but I do have a smaller battery power bank for that purpose. How about this one. 1/10 of Amps, but substantially cheaper. Would it be big enough for PRIME and other hybrids?

    Tri-State Battery Warehouse : NOCO GB20 BOOST Sport 12V Lithium Jump Starter [GB-20] - $79.95
    Screenshot 2019-07-23 at 9.40.40 AM.png
     
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    Interesting...sounds like a similar process to 'jumping' dead tool batteries ( ahem...like the infamous Ryobi One+ batteries ). In fact, I just 'jumped' four of my One+ batteries a couple weeks ago. However, I used my 12V battery charger to do it vs. another battery.
     
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    True but having some extra capacity isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    That should handle most any vehicle.....except maybe a big 24V diesel.
    It should handle a situation where the battery is REALLY weak.
    It should still work if you have neglected to recharge the pack for a LONG time.
     
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    That's the one I have but have so far never used. (y)
     
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    That's the point of having it. Like a spare tire, life preserver or fire extinguisher, I prefer that they are NEVER used and gladly throw them out when their service life has expired.
     
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    It's insurance. ;)
     
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    @bisco, if you have Pep Boys close by, give them a call. They sell a Bosch battery for under $200 and it has a date code and they install for "free". I had good luck with that on my 12V Prius battery adventure.
     
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    The key with an agm is to find out its weak before it fails or you dry out and blow separators ruining the battery.

    Normally a weak AGM is just dried out, turn it on it’s side an hour then upside down a half hour then trickle charge using a dumb charger for a few hours to see if the voltage starts stabilizing.

    I drilled holes an added a few teaspoons of acid to 2 failing AGMs restoring them.

    If the batteries free it’s worth a few experiments but it’s really just for fun.

    My Honda Insight I just use a $19.99 lawn mower battery and replace every 2 or 3 years.
     
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    looks good to me
     
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    looks like they have one in dedham, $200. or $150. if i order online, thanks! (y)
     
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    i usually just recycle them, what method do you use?
     
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    I don't think you can support that statement.

    Since a "real" AGM is fully sealed, how do you figure the "water" is going to get OUT ??
    Hint: it won't unless subjected to EXTREME conditions which will upset the chemistry too.

    Trying to "rejuvinate" a completely dead and/or dry battery is a fools errand.
    It just isn't worth the trouble.......and some of the "procedures" can be dangerous too.
     
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    Yes, and they'll install it without loosing your radio presets :) (they have a thing)
     
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    Bisco, Im surprised you dont know this but AAA has a battery service. the one in my truck died (from a bad alternator, but thats another story) they came out and swapped it out. all i had to pay was the battery it's self, about $130 with tax. (the truck battery is physically larger than the Prius one so maybe the Prius one will be cheaper?
     
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