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  1. hill

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    Yeah! GM now sees tesla wisdom - years after the fact - but still .... partnering with Korea to build batteries - (instead of gas burners) for their future cars! Go GM!
    Just when you think GM may be down & out ... after killing off the Chevy Volt - they go & show off, that they see the writing on the wall ... that GM is desperately short on battery suppliers

    GM and LG to Partner on Battery Factory - Tesla Motors Club

    i just wish Toyota would expand their battery capacity - beyond china, where they are currently being FORCED to go 100% ev

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    more false promises from the hype machine?
     
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    thank you Captain Negativity ...

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    ah, i'm sorry. but the streets are littered with broken gm promises :unsure:
     
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    Toyota is establishing battery partners instead, while investing in the vehicle itself. That production plant in Kentucky to build RAV4 is a really big deal, one not to ignore when considering the bigger picture.
     
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    Hope they hire some of the laid off GM union workers. NAH! They will hire new "indentured servants" under the LG Chem management.
     
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    When Nissan advertised they were going to start building traction packs in the Nashville area, my reaction was to think it was a bunch of hooey, yet here we are now .... building lots of traction packs in Nashville for 100% Nissan EV's. Negativity is always easier than optimism.
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    oh i'm optimistic. that gm will screw up again :cool:

    let's go back and count the times...
     
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    maybe after theyre building ev's, and they decide no one wants them, they'll sell the factory to elon for cheap
     
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    Who cares about the battery factory...
    The big news is right at the end of the piece...

    "GM has announced plans to continue to expand its all-electric offerings, including EVs from Cadillac and “an all-new battery-electric truck coming in the fall of 2021.”.

    Gee, I hope it has sledgehammer resistant metal and unbreakable windows!
     
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    Lol... You call him Captain Negativity? You're the most negative nellie in this entire operation @hill
     
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    GM just needs to wait for Toyota to run out of tax credits to start selling Volts again,
    I expect within 10-20 years
     
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    Well, they never built the Edsel, but other than that......
     
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    well yea - but to GM's credit, they DID out-do the Edsel, when Pontiac created the Aztec .....
    moi?

    well - after the recent refresher CPR class here at work, perhaps I was inspired to try & breathe a little life back into GM.
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    *shrug* could be good. I don't know much about GM's operation, never owned one of their cars. I've long had the sense that they're building their future overseas.

    I live a few minutes away from one of their earliest factories. I think it's been 90 years since GM used it, but local people still talk about how they cut and ran once they were asked to shoulder some of their own growth-related expenses.
     
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    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
     
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    no one to blame but yourself

    make a product that people want, instead of what you think they need.

    oh yeah, they'll still sell plenty of land barges. no worries until the next gas crisis or economic downturn
     
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    The world did not become a better place with the invention of "marketing departments".
     
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    That logic is exactly what contributes to the problem of Innovator's Dilemma... which is the very problem Volt died from. The spin online about that not being the case is good reading too... so much damage-control effort for such an obvious mistake. GM chose to focus on enthusiasts, asking them what they wanted... rather than finding out what mainstream consumers actually needed. That created a highly specialized gen-1 Volt. They repeated the same mistake for gen-2 Volt. It became such a much praised niche, but actual sales were terrible.

    Thinking a want is what they "need" is a very real issue There was so much justification in the past for Volt, based on marketing, not the actual recognition of necessity. True requirements are a solid measure. People turn a blind-eye to that data.
     
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    Like they did for NiMH batteries. In 2009, Toyota owned 60% of Primearth EV, and that was before Panasonic reduced their share in order to acquire Sanyo.
    Panasonic reportedly to reduce stake in Toyota hybrid-battery JV - MarketWatch

    Besides, this announcement, and what Tesla has, are partnerships with a battery company. The title of @hill's link said GM and LG to partner.

    In defense of the ovoid, Kammback, split rear window prerunner, what Pontiac created, and everyone raved about, would have started the Crossover craze years sooner.
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    GM screwed up a sure hit, it was only getting built because of the response on the show circuit, when they insisted Pontiac use an existing minivan platform for the production version. The tall firewall couldn't be altered, and that completely shifted the Aztek profile to that of a gen 2 Prius.

    And Toyota is jealous more people aren't buying their heavier and thirstier land barges.:)

    GM can make good products. Ford and Ram would be selling more trucks if they couldn't. The Volt seemed to be well made, and the gen2 had some big improvements. GM just seems to get focused on what makes money now over future investment. Hopefully, this partnership means that is changing.
     
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