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Gen 1 ICE will not start

Discussion in 'Generation 1 Prius Discussion' started by Nelsonprius, Jan 16, 2022.

  1. Nelsonprius

    Nelsonprius Junior Member

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    Was driving fine then cold snap came,it would not start, thawed and still won't start.
    Ice is turning over 2 seconds but doesn't catch. Red Triangle, engine light, ABS light on and steering froze stiff
    Carista & ELM327 will not connect to ECU for Dr Prius & Torque. 12v charged.
    No visible blown fuses but I assume burnt electrical because just before it died the dash & headlights would go dim and off then on dim then off.
    Any ideas before I scrap? Who Needs an OEM Cat?
     
    #1 Nelsonprius, Jan 16, 2022
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    Air
    Fuel
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    Spark?

    I would check all 3, could be something as stupid as a pump

    no spark is easy to test as well
     
    #2 Rmay635703, Jan 16, 2022
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    99% throttle body need cleaning.
     
    #3 AlexY, Jan 17, 2022
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    could be interested in the cat, if you decide not to fix the car..
     
    #4 jamesprius, Jan 19, 2022
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    Sounds like a weak 12V battery, have you tried jumping it from another car?
     
    #5 ammdb, Jan 20, 2022
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    He said
    Also if engine is cranked, system is switched in to 14V inverter.
    Need codes.
     
    #6 AlexY, Jan 20, 2022
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    Too bad you are in Canadia

    I would pick up the whole hill locally (always wanted a tax excepted 1st Gen)
     
    #7 Rmay635703, Jan 20, 2022
  8. Nelsonprius

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    Has air fuel and spark and 12.4V.
    HV charged up, immediately discharges with ignition on start, I assume a power motor short or relay short
    codes p3000 and p3009 c1259 c1521, power steering was erratic as well.
    I don't want to put big money into it, guess I'll part it out unless you can think of a simple fix
     
    #8 Nelsonprius, Feb 12, 2022
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    p3009 is leaking electrolyte from traction battery.
    Other codes are result of this one, most likely...
    Would start with traction battery refurb but this is not simple fix for everyone.
     
    #9 AlexY, Feb 13, 2022
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  10. Nelsonprius

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    Will new gen 2 busbar replacements fit in Gen 1, just fewer pcs ?
     
    #10 Nelsonprius, Feb 14, 2022
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    You mean copper links between modules? Yes. I bough copper pipe, cut it along, flatten, drilled holes, works fine.
     
    #11 AlexY, Feb 15, 2022
  12. Nelsonprius

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    HV battery had 13 bad modules , replaced, works better than ever, just don't know what caused the sudden battery fail.
    Car is for sale in BC Canada $3000 US or $3700 Cdn, near top of Idaho Handle
    , I needed a replacement and can't keep 3 cars where I am
     
    #12 Nelsonprius, Mar 5, 2022
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    Probably age, most likely it was so weak that even cranking ICE was too much for it.
     
    #13 AlexY, Mar 7, 2022
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