2023 - Prius or Prime - spare tire?

I think the LE (base level) has spare, and higher levels “upgrade” to the compressor with goop?

In Canada we won’t get LE, so that’s it I guess.

Addendum: none of the levels have a spare??

 

Attached is an excerpt from 2023 Prius Owner's Manual (available on Toyota Tech Info), showing spare tire install procedure (if equipped), so not sure. Also, a screen-grab from the tire spec page:

 

I agree...not having a spare tire is not practical for certain folks. I've had flats and don't feel comfortable commuting to work without one. My 2021 AWD did not come with one so I purchased one. It sits in the back but if I need the room, it fits between on the floor of the rear seat. I, also, bought a better scissor jack...Toyota's works but leaves much to be desired!!

 

That's a kinda weird tire size. I couldn't find one that size after searching 3 or 4 big online sellers.
It wouldn't be the best set of options if the dealers are the only place to find a replacement tire.

Anyone else find one that size?

 

It looks like there is a spare tire for the base trims LE and SE. This is yet another reason to get the base trims, in addition to 10% higher fuel economy and 10% higher EV range.

2023 Prius product information | PriusChat

For XLE/Limited/XSE/XSE Premium trims, simply buy a Toyota OEM spare tire—it is really cheap.

Donut-size spare for Prius Prime | PriusChat

 

Really I believe that there must be other Toyota models that share that size space saver tire and probably the same bolt pattern and offset. So just head to the nearest salvage yard and find one that’s never been on the ground. I’ll bet they’re cheap too. Get the hold down bolt and head home. When you get there pull out the styrofoam. Use those pieces as a pattern to cut up a sheet of 1/4” plywood or some Masonite to fit over your new spare and hit the road with confidence that you can get back home or to a tire shop.

 

You just buy a brand-new car and then drive to every junk yard with it to look for accessories for it? Simply order a brand-new Toyota OEM spare tire after you buy the car. It should be no more than about $200 with the hold-down clamp. It will cost you less than the fuel you will use and wear & tear you will encounter touring the junk yards, and it will actually work if you ever need it.

 

The spares as options I've seen were $300, and reusing a used rim is lower emissions than a new one. Spare tires have a service life of ten years, so might be best to consider a new one.

 

Toyota OEM spare wheel is $79.11.

https://parts.culvercitytoyota.com/p/Wheel/72014011/4261147631.html?referer=parts.toyota.com&machineIDT1=3eappxs25u2uj352edvatq23

 

Then a used one will likely be less.

 

Not less with the time and money spent looking for one.

 

You also need the thumbscrew

https://parts.culvercitytoyota.com/%2Fp%2FToyota_2022_Prius%2FSpare-Tire-Stud%2F66807442%2F5193147030.html

and bracket.

https://parts.culvercitytoyota.com/p/Toyota_2022_Prius/Spare-Tire-Bracket-SPARE-WHEEL-CARRIER-SPARE-WHEEL-CLAMP/72014814/5835112070.html

 

I can’t believe you guys don’t love a visit to a good salvage yard.

 

Question is if you order a back up spare tire for new Prime - will it fit? Will it secure with clamp? Will rear storage area be flat and level with car design? It's one thing to have to order spare tire (at who knows what size) and its completely another if installing inside present uneven flooring problems. Also have to wonder if removing styrofoam molding (to make room for spare tire) might increase cabin noise.

 

I think the 2023 Prius Prime SE—but not the XSE and XSE Premium—comes with a spare tire. If it doesn't, then it definitely won't fit.

 

The last time I went to a junkyard was in the mid-1990s, and it was frustrating because all I found was multitudes of brand-new Hyundai Excels. Not too many Toyotas end up in junkyards.

By the way, the temporary spare for the 2023 Prius is completely different than for the 2022 Prius—smaller wheel diameter, larger tire overall diameter, wider tire, and a higher tire load index.

2023 Prius: T145/90D16 106M
2022 Prius: T125/70D17 98M

 

You've ignored the entertainment externality, among others. What results in less overall emissions? Going to a local salvage yard(you can call ahead, or go online now to check if the part you are looking for is there) and getting an used spare wheel, possibly with still serviceable tire, or; shipping that used wheel to a foundry to reforge it into a new steel billet, shipping that to a factory to convert that steel into a new spare wheel, and shipping it to you, though there is likely one or more stops between you and the factory?

The wheel size oddness of the new Prius is going to increase the difficulty and cost of securing related parts.The likely use of wheel bolts likely won't help matters. In regards to the spare, exact matching is less important. Unless you are looking for a full size spare, a spare just needs to be driven on long enough to get to a place to repair or replace. More research is needed, but currently in use rims could work for the gen5 with more suitable sized tire.

The models without spare have a different underfloor tray. That is definitely something to consider. Something that is seemless to implement will likely cost more, but if you'll have the cargo cover in place all the time...

There are sound insulating products out there that take up less space than the styrofoam. Dynamat is a well advertised one. It just can't be used as a tray material like the foam Toyota picked.

 

The size listed for the 2023 LE is 195/60 R17, but I can't find one anywhere. Tried Tirerack, Bridgestone, Tirebuyer, Discount/America's Tire, Michelin and GoodYear. No luck. (Will the Toyota dealer be the only potential source?) What if you get a flat? Where do you get snows or All-Weather tires? (Do they need to be the same size?) With the OEM size being such an oddball, it would be wise to keep a full-size spare on hand -- or at least an extra tire -- at all times.

p.s. I couldn't find tire chains in the OEM size either.

 

LE/SE comes with a temporary spare if you get a flat.

Toyota dealers typically carry several brands as the OEM tire. You don't want to shop at Tire Rack etc. anyway because a random tire would substantially reduce the fuel economy.

I am sure within a year you will see a plethora of aftermarket tires and snow tires for both tire sizes.