Prius Differential vs Transmission?

See my comment on #13 - It only requires ONE drain and fill; unless you somehow contaminated the ATF.

 

By golly, it is three times in the manual:

• You do steps #1 to #10 the first time, as steps #1 to #10. That leaves you drained and temporarily refilled and idled for 30 seconds.
• You repeat steps #1 to #10 in (k). That leaves you drained a second time, temporarily refilled a second time, and idled for 30 seconds a second time.
• You repeat steps #1 to #3 in (l). That leaves you drained a third time.

Then you reinstall the drain plug for real with a new gasket, and fill for the third time.

 

That's a flush, lol.

I skimmed that, in the fourth gen RM, concluded "there be dragons" (to borrow Bob's expression).

Third gen, it just says the aforementioned double check of fluid level, which I resolved to not do, after the first time. I suspect there's some proof-reading, back-room engineer, who keeps piling on additional silliness, with each successive gen.

I actually resorted to such a flush method, with an Accord: inadvertantly started pouring motor oil in (to the transmission), got about a cup in before I woke up. So three drain and fills, with a drive around the block after each fill. Then a fourth and final fill.

 

LoL; in your defense - the old Honda manual transmissions did take 30wt motor oil; NOT gear oil. Too much LSD or shrooms.......

 

Really? Sometimes you wonder if engineers are just messing with us! My buddy at work brings his Ford Maverick over to use my Quick Jack to do his tire rotations and oil changes and it has one huge undercarriage cover you have to remove just to do an oil change....14 torque bolts! WHAT??? Oh and his steel wheels have to be torqued to 150 ft/lbs....that's crazy tight!! (Makes me worry about warping the rotors.)

At least it's pretty light....the steel skid plate underneath my Tundra is never fun to replace after doing an oil change. You have to line up the holes to get the bolts in there....need 4 hands!!

 

I can manage bonehead maneuvers even when sober.

 

okay so i was kind of reading this right.
I own shop manuals, and this is surprisingly confusing. Is this a TECH s/m or a consumer service manual??? If the tech manuals are like this..... oh boy..... im sure this leads to many mistakes.

i looked up the average pay for a toyota tech... $24-$26 on average, excluding senior service techs. .... oof. I expected $30 STARTING.

I work in industrial manufacturing if we paid our techs $24-$26 an hr and gave them books like this nothing would be done correctly.

My GM shop manuals are very...very clear on sealed "forever unit" flushing. Drain, fill, check, idle, check. Drain, fill, check, idle, check, drain, fill, check, idle, check, drive, check.

looking forward to chattn with ya guys! Toyotas are totally new to me, i've worked on a 87 toyota truck, a 92 truck, a few small things on a 04' mainly educated in 62'-00' chevys. Looking forward to learning. The hybrid concept fascinates me!!! -nerd moment-

heres a current project of mine (sorry if not allowed...have mercy)

 

1. If it's a 'sealed forever unit' why is there a drain & fill procedure?? Wouldn't it be just a R+R procedure if it's sealed forever?
2. This is a Toyota NOT a Chevy... Would you also use Chevy procedures and specifications on a BMW, MBZ, Lamborghini, Porsche?
3. If you prefer a GM product; go buy a GM product - they have a Bolt or several hybrids in their line-up.
4. This is a planetary gear transmission; NO torque convert or wet clutches, that's why ATF can last that long in them.

I can go on, but I think you get the idea......

 

The oil change guys start at $20 and are on probation for a couple of months. Then they get benefits which are worth at least 50% extra if they take them. There are a lot of those guys.

The other mechanics are expected to go through Toyota training for their level. The online manuals are written for trained techs, not diy. They use the TIS system online as it was designed which makes links work and schematics easier to follow. Typically only the most experienced and trained can work on hybrids and earn top dollar.

The compensation for trained techs is flat rate; a given number of hours are paid per job. A brake booster may pay four hours. The best techs may do it in three hours. get paid for four hours and can get ten or more hours of pay for eight hours on the job. However they have to guarantee their own labor, so if it comes back they do it again for free.

Some dealers are lucky to have highly experienced techs because many leave to start their own shops.

 

This topic of "forever units" have been covered not only here several times, but everywhere else. "If you prefer a GM product; go buy a GM product"
-what an absolutely rude and un-deserving comment, ive been nothing but respectful and thankful. you sir earned yourself an ignore. Good day.

Thats alot of very good information! Thank you!
Why do you think the language isn't.... better?

think these manuals are translated, not written from the US?