Pedal comander vs Pedal monster

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by Jay weeks, Oct 31, 2025.

  1. Iron Man Prius

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    They cannot make HP and TQ claims legally on their website because of threat of getting sued if they cannot live up to their claims. Anyone knows this. Now you should convince the Boomer bros up there it actually does something. Glad you are seeing the light.
     
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    I am not seeing any new light. It is you who should be seeing the light. I have repeatedly said that the box can only change the 0 to 100% pedal position curves, which the website confirms. You are the one who continually said it does not work that way. Do you want me to quote those posts or give you the post numbers?

    It does not change the HP or torque output from the hybrid system drive. How can the intermediate box create more HP or torque when all that it is doing is sending a voltage signal to the ECU, which corresponds to 0 to 100% request for power from the car? Where is the addition HP or Torque coming from that you believe the box is providing? After the ECU receives the input voltage, it knows the total amount of power that is being requested. The ECU determines how much of that power should come from the ICE and how much should come from the electric drive motors. This is not rocket science. It is a very easy concept for most people to grasp if they understand science and control systems.
     
    #103 Brian1954, Dec 30, 2025 at 11:39 PM
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    You're wasting your breathe.

    If he actually believes what he wrote in post 102, and is using it as a basis that advertisers and manufacturers are telling the truth, he is a lost cause.

    They cannot make HP and TQ claims legally on their website because of threat of getting sued if they cannot live up to their claims. Anyone knows this

    Actually, most people with real world knowledge know manufacturers of gimmick items are full of ????....
    So what HP and TQ claims were made by the manufacturer?
     
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    They get harrassed and sued by trash DIY consumers like all of you, that's why they don't claim anything concrete about their products other than functionality.
     
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    Yes, it works that way,,, but,,,
    WHO CARES...
    It doesn't do anything until your right foot requests the power YOU want by the feel in the seat of your pants.

    YOU are always the
    PEDAL COMMANDER.

    Save your dollars on fooling yourself that something different is happening.

    Go to a fancy restaurant!
    Go on a quick vacation!
     
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    Bill is willfully ignorant and arguing in bad faith, can't tell if this stooge is serious or not. He's making Brian seem like Albert Einstein at this point. :ROFLMAO:
     
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    Thanks for the compliment.

    I did not see any response from you concerning my post #103. Are you ready to acknowledge that the only thing that the box can do is change the throttle response curve for 0 to 100% pedal position, and it does not increase the HP or torque output from the hybrid drive system?

    Happy New Year to you.
     
    #108 Brian1954, Jan 1, 2026 at 9:42 AM
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    You are so correct about the 'bad faith' !
    I have no faith in that gizmodic you love so......:rolleyes:
    And I'm sorry you wasted your money on it. And your time defending your purchase.
    You and your partner (if there is one) could have had a good time with all that money....:(

    I understand sensors and signal/data wires and control module inputs.
    Remember, my career was in Airline and Business Avionics.
    Did you see the recent news story about the King Air that landed by itself after the Pilot became incapacitated and the
    Emergency Landing System was activated?
    I was at that company for 15 yrs during the development and certification of that system. It took years...

    I can't wait to get my Comma Four installed in my, new to me, '19 L Eco!! And begin the future of Hands Free driving.
    It's an Auto Pilot system and adding navigation capabilities to it will be fun!

    I can point to that system and demonstrate what it is doing!
    You can't do that with your Gizmodic because the Right Foot it doing the actual Control/Input.

    In conclusion, again,,,,:whistle:

    The Right Foot of the Driver determines the amount of power/acceleration the car is producing.

    Nothing Else Matters.

    I am not arguing. "Just the fact Ma'am."
    Happy New Years !!

    (extra points for knowing where this quote came from!)