Electrical safety when working on the hybrid battery

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  1. indel

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    I found another related thread, but it didn't answer the questions I have.

    I will be working with the hybrid battery soon, first to test voltages across the 28 modules (with and without load) and eventually to run charge/discharge cycles on good modules. I may also have to replace some modules. So obviously, safety is paramount.

    Until what point does working on disassembling the battery present a high voltage danger? And how to mitigate it?

    Removing the orange plug will disconnect the battery from the inverter so working in the engine bay is not a problem after capacitors have discharged (Repair manual page 2050 precaution suggests waiting 10 mins for the capacitors to discharge). But working on the battery itself is different.

    It is my understanding from reading a bunch and watching numerous videos is that one must remove the bus bars which will isolate the modules, which will in turn split the combined 200V into individual module voltages.

    How do you manage the risk until you are at that point? Is using insulated gloves essential? Any recommendations? I did buy an insulated Wera 8mm nut driver. The gloves I looked at seem very bulky and would provide no dexterity.

    Same thing when balancing the pack after capacity restoration. Many videos show people joining all negative terminals together with a bare wire (and separately the positive terminals). And this is not risky because you are touching only one terminal at a time?
     
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    In the battery itself, when you pull the service plug, you don't have a ~ 202-volt stack anymore. The service plug splits it, not right in the middle, but into roughly a 130-volt and a 72-volt stack. You would still want to take care around those.

    If you next removed a bus bar from the middle of the 130-volt stack, you would have two 65-volt stacks (and a 72-volt stack), and you could likewise strategically choose the next few bus bars you remove, to get quickly down to less-dangerous voltages. Insulated tools and gloves are common sense for such work; you should also be familiar with how to test electrical gloves for any pinholes.

    At voltages below what might give you a dangerous shock, the battery modules might still have adequate current capacity to do other unfriendly things, like spit molten steel from your screwdriver tip into your face.

    Do people often jump in with fewer precautions and live to tell the tale? Sure ... I've also done various things in my life that I got away with, but those still aren't what I would teach anybody to try.

    One more thing to remember: isolation faults (the P0AA6 code) can be a frequent reason for working on the battery. Such a fault, by definition, means the current paths you know about aren't the only ones there are, and they don't all have to be interrupted by pulling the service plug. Working on a battery because of a P0AA6 code calls for all the precautions you can muster, until it's disassembled and cleaned up.
     
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    Thanks for directly answering my questions and for raising awareness of additional risks I hadn't considered. I will try to do a video on this when I get to working on the battery.

    I see a bunch of Gol-Siv brand insulated gloves that look like regular mechanic gloves selling for under $20 and rated for up to 1000V. Something tells me I should not trust them. So I will remain on the hunt for better products.
     
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    Watch videos of Green tech green bean guys changing n working on battery in Prius. Lots videos from the pros and owners of these businesses.make a mental note of safety equipment gloves etc . And nite wet businesses are located mini strip malls etc . Remember these aren't lithium-ion batteries they're lowly NIMH old cell phone tech . Not much blowing up etc going on . Swelling leaking yes .
     
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    Hi @indel, in the past 5 years selling hybrid batteries, I honestly haven’t had a single customer (no matter how naive they were) get seriously hurt or kill. That said, the risk is always there, so it’s worth respecting.

    From personal experience, the most you can get is a pretty solid zap and you’ll definitely remember it… but you can usually shake it off assuming you don’t have any heart issues.

    Hybrid packs are roughly 220V DC. DC generally doesn’t penetrate skin as easy as household 240V AC (60Hz) can, but it can still bite you hard.

    Also, those super thick high-voltage gloves can make the job almost impossible. The main rule is simple: don’t complete the circuit. Example: you can touch the most positive terminal stud with one hand, but the other hand better be smart and don't touch the most negative terminal stud even with the service plug off.

    Pretty sure I made a video on this years ago — I even got zapped on camera for the love of science. Painful, but manageable
     
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    Discussions of what it takes, AC or DC, to ruin a person's day occasionally happen here, and every now and then it is worth reposting some information that's often kept on display around physics labs. I'll put the link here again, 'cause it doesn't hurt to have it in multiple places.

    Electrical Safety: The Fatal Current

    I've put that link in other threads (like here, with other interesting links and discussion).

    The web site I was linking to seems to have had a reorg around 2024 and the links I posted earlier don't work. The one above is to the Wayback Machine, so should continue to work.
     
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    Right shoe soles . And what not . I was carrying a rack of modules and had something touching . I could feel the juice biting on me said 175V . Set rack down it stopped . Duh. Put it on slow charge went to parts store .