Kinda an odd problem about my 12V battery-cables

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  1. priuslyfe

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    thanks for the advice. HAD to walk through snow and ice today and thought maybe a better design is 1) battery was moved towards the front of the car ie. the normal place or 2) have a hot air vent from the engine towards the battery to at least mitigate the risk of freezing.

    also discovered that while walking through snow and ice, you often take twisted ankle steps, sometimes several in a row. a technique that seemed to work for me today is trying to use one foot as my flat foot and the other as my twist-foot, thus giving me some stability. I seemed to move marginally faster.

    the reason I don't use both as my flat-foot is that isnt a reasonable request. the reason for this is most people havent shoveled their sidewalks. i dont fault them as snowplows have covered them with 2ft of snow that has since become blocks of ice.
     
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    The other end of that heavy cable is connected as the supply source for the underhood fuse box in the upper driverside of the engine compartment. There is no real slack to be had.
    You'll either need to get the crimp fitting removed, opened up and recrimped/soldered, OR do what some others have done and find a salvage yard that has a gen 2, cut that cable several inches back and crimp/splice the new piece of 'yard' cable onto yours. You don't want to make a loop in the wire, so you'll need to trim it as needed to get the correct original length. Otherwise it's just a pain to stuff it in place.
     
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    but, for that size wire and ampacity, is less common, and requires the heavy crimp tools they have at your neighborhood independent auto electric shoppe.

    I would probably try to get the last foot or so of that wire out of a salvage car, then take it to my neighborhood auto electric shoppe and have them make it up. They'd charge me less than the cost of a heavy-nice-person tool I might never use again.
     
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    update:

    half accomplished. got about 6" off that cable which is firmly into the connector off a salvage car. much more length is hard to get as this cable becomes intertwined with others (the main?) that make pulling out more length to cut unfeasible. there is very little slack available at all at most 2-3 inches anyways. the cable basically makes a straight shot to the positive terminal with no room for modifications in length.

    think I'm gonna go with my idea of jamming the wires together. once you cut the cable you see there are about a dozen heavy duty steel wiress housed within the cable. i'm gonna need a breakaway to prevent this from happening again. ideally toyota should have had a white connector about a foot back that I could detach (however i guess ideally i should be living in a warmer place. always forget about this snow/ice in the middle of summer).

    too cold to finish this job today and light is starting to wane so yeah **** that.
     
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    If it goes to Ready with the short salvage battery wire jammed into the remaining vehicle harness it might work for a short time. A battery that could not staying charged before has no chance with a battery cable rigged in that manner.

    To properly repair using a salvage pigtail (piece) it should be crimped or lugged at the spliced connection.

    Crimp sleeve for wires (sized for wire diameter - typically 4-6 awg with automotive stranded)
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    Lug Butt Splice (tighten with allen wrench and insulate)
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    Amazon Butt Splices
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    Once you splice the wires together, you still need to do something about your battery. It is likely weak and needs testing and replacement as indicated.

    Again, a good battery adequately charged won't freeze. How many of your neighbors are removing their battery every night? Some will attach a battery maintainer as I have when in Calgary during the winter. Many do nothing and still crank their high amp starters.

    A Prius 12v battery does not have to supply large currents and is in the cabin rather than under the hood. After achieving Ready, a weak battery can initially charge by drawing 60-80a from the hybrid system. A loose, "jammed" connection won't do it and is likely to fall out and short the battery. At best you can be stranded somewhere.
     
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    The markings on that splice identify the not one but two distinct special tools and dies to be used to properly crimp it onto the wire.

    Your neighborhood independent auto electric shoppe already has the right tools and dies to do that, and when they're done you'll have a properly all-around-crimped and insulated connection, more reliable than the set-screw butt connectors, and they'll probably be done in a couple minutes and you'll be on your way for a nominal charge.
     
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    OK. I've called A LOT of shops. first problem is due to the snowstorm almost all of them cannot work on it with any timeline soon. Most turned me down for fear of working on a hybrid.

    WILL THE ABOVE PICTURED CRIMPS BE ADEQUATE TO = a solder or hydraulic crimp re: transfer of voltage and codes P0A080 being dismissed?

    some are saying to replace entire cable (not feasible because its connected to the harness and stupid expensive). Just want to know how much something like this might cost to repair professionally as well. My local NAPA suggested I do it myself but kinda worried about not doing it correctly.

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    Have I missed something? That seems to be the first mention in this thread of that code—which isn't really a code (real ones are five characters), but P0A08 and P0A80 are both real codes (meaning quite different things). One of them has nothing to do with the 12-volt electrical system.

    Is your car giving you either of those codes?

    Or are you worried about a prospect of seeing one of those codes after repairing the broken wire?
     
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    No. The P0A codes you mentioned are only going on intermittently for some reason. By slightly manipulating/squeezing the crimped area the codes stopped. However I realize this is still a risk. Again now the cable wires sans black-housing is lightly and loosely twisted together underneath the black duct tape.

    maybe I'm not being clear in my question, basically the the NAPA part GRO #829219 seems to be the correct method and more secure method vs. hand-tool crimps above (home depot and others). However, the NAPA crimp would require going to the shop as i don't have the tools.

    The wires are crimped together very lightly and also with about 4 extra inches of slack in the black-cable to allow for a proper repair.

    IF it can be adequately repaired (no voltage issues, no codes) with the hand-tool options then although I don't prefer that method, at least I don't have to wait for a shop. Many shops turned me down (maybe too easy or too difficult to do correctly, not sure). but i'll have to wait a while do to everyone else having car issues because of the snowfall cold.
     
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    Given it was running before the 12v wire broke off it would seem the hybrid battery code is secondary now even though it needs a solution in the next month or so.

    In your situation the easy and functional 12v splice is the Home Depot splicer that you tighten with an allen wrench or dcrewdriver. Then wrap with Self fusing tape or Scotch (3M) 33+ electrical tape, both available from Home Depot.

    You splice the piece on when its not connected to the 12v battery. No electrical concerns during that installation.

    You can get a auto shop to crimp the appropriate Napa crimp sleeve later.

    Around here Home Depot will deliver the same or next day if parts are in stock. However it would be much better to take your salvage yard piece in and verify fit.
     
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    but which is the preferred method to fix this cable? heavy-duty press/hydraulic OR allen-wrench screw fix

    for definitional terms if it seems confusing
    - by wire i mean the dozen or so wires underneath the black positive cable housing
    - by cable I mean the black housing only with the wires therein

    I am most concerned that if not done adequately (by me or by shop), that resistance will develop while I'm driving and cause a fire. I've been checking the cable (the area underneath the black duct tape) for heating up and so far that black cable scrimp (the area underneath the black duct tape) doesn't feel hot/emit heat.

    One issue is that you are supposed to keep the wires inside the cable housing relatively clean and not frayed for an ideal crimp job. wouldn't the pressure of allen-screws crush and fray the wires unevenly at the pressure points?
     
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    A good crimp with a proper tool will be superior to the screw-tightened splices.

    The screw splices will get the job done and not require relying on a shop or an expensive investment in tooling.

    Although it travels in a harness that may also contain other wires, what connects to that one large single-terminal connector is a single, large, wire. It is a stranded wire, made of a number of thinner copper strands twisted together, but that's still considered one wire.

    Make sure that whatever splicing you do involves only that one, large, stranded wire, and not any other wires you may find in its vicinity.
     
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    The screw type splice is just fine and is made for the job. Heating is really not a concern because high amps only occur for a short time. Regardless all of those splice devices can take the amps.

    If this was a conventional 12v starter car, a screw type splicer might last two to five years. But this application is much less demanding.

    I suspect a friend or neighbor could help you do this quickly and easily. Its not that big of a deal.
     
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    Your pic
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    The thick black multi strand conductor on the right is the main 12v cable. The multiple strands ("wires") inside are built that way to make the cable flexible rather than one huge diameter conductor. All of those strands go into the splice device.


    Factory Setup
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    The thin white wire is separate and is for remote monitoring of the battery voltage. It is not included in the splice. You already have it separated and taped together in the first pic above.


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    to allow for a proper repair.

    After seeing your photo, which includes the (+) battery post, you need more help than just a splice. Quit jerry rigging and get it fixed correctly so you don't have to worry about breaking down. You're worried about a "correctly done splice" but have no worries about the (+) post? That terminal post clamp is available for about 15 bucks new. These are the things that drive me crazy when customers complain about something not working...........Crazy...............
     
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