Intermittent Misfiring with no Overheating

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  1. AnnaBiJou

    AnnaBiJou Junior Member

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    Hello everyone, I hope you can help me with something pretty serious.

    2012 Prius V, it's been having intermittent random misfires for months on cold starts and rarely on light acceleration. It's suddenly gotten a lot worse, to the point that I'm scared to drive it now, misfiring every time on start up and when the engine engages. The misfires do not last, once it misfires a few times the engine will smooth out. I just got the check engine light and codes which is not helpful, saying random misfire, and misfire on cylinder 1, 2, 3.

    Looking it up and getting a scan gauge 3 to help monitor radiator temp, the highest radiator temp was 201F very briefly, it hangs around 195F on all drives, out of curiosity I checked the cat temp and saw it was 973F, which I do believe is normal temp, both the cat and the radiator. I'm honestly thinking it's the head gasket, despite the lack of common symptoms. The oil was changed recently as well and it's not foamy or high, the radiator fluid is not going down consistently, though has been low a couple times. My dealer has said because there is no overheating, no clouds of white exhaust, and no sign of piston wash, according to them it cannot an issue with the head gasket.

    Going through the car, the dealer replaced the spark plugs, discovered two of the coils are non-OEM, and switched them around to see if that helped anything, it has not. I'm going to be replacing the coils next, I have all of the tools and video guides to do it, I'm just a little nervous to do that, and clean the manifold, which has been another common reason for the misfires from what I've found. I got a second one to clean and swap it out with the one in the car.

    Questions that I have, is there anything else I should be doing before replacing the coils/cleaning the manifold?
    From what I've watched I need to disconnect the two coolant hoses from the throttle body, yet nobody shows or even mentions needing to bleed the coolant system. If an air bubble gets into the system, will it blow the head gasket? How would I bleed the system if that is a concern?

    Any help is greatly appreciated, any answers or any other suggestions as to what else I should do to try and solve this before I jump for a head gasket replacement that may not even fix the problem.​
     
  2. BiomedO1

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    IMHO; you need to test for head gasket failure; BEFORE throwing parts and extra work at this problem.
    How many miles and how long have you had this car?
    Do you check the fluid levels at every fill-up and has the coolant level been going down?
    Could someone have put stop-leak in the coolant to cover-up this problem and now that 'patch' had fallen off?
    Your dealer doesn't know what they're doing - don't waste your time & money there anymore.
    These cars usually seep coolant into the combustion chamber when engine is cold, which causes a misfire during start-up. When the engine warms-up, the aluminum expands and seals the coolant seepage. That's why your problem is intermittent and only during start-up. The dealership has a TSB on that and should know better!! Did they sell you the car and don't want to repair it under warranty???? Find a Prius specialty shop for proper diagnostics and documentation.

    Pull the spark plugs, check the tips and borrow a borescope to check the pistons for steam cleaning.
    You need to do a compression and leak-down test, WHILE the engine is cold. The 'car care nut' YouTube channel has the procedure.
    The different coils is an indication that someone has already tried fixing this problem without proper testing and diagnostics. In other words throwing parts at the problem, hoping to fix it that way. TESTING is the only way to nail-down a problem, rather than blindly throwing parts at it. Those aftermarket coils tells you that someone has already done that and that the problem is persistent..

    Good Luck....
     
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  3. Mendel Leisk

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    What’s the miles and how long have you had it?

    head gasket failure is VERY common 3rd gen and Prius v problem.
     
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    You have a head gasket leak, I would say with 99% certainty.

    It sounds like your "dealer" is not a Toyota dealer or the mechanics are young and inexperienced.

    White smoke and overheating are typical for most cars with a blown head gasket but not a gen3 Prius.

    The fact yours is rattling everytime the engine engages means it is likely to strand you soon because the hg leak is advanced.

    A high quality borescope inspection is a definitive test but throwing more parts at it is foolish. Before long the parts would cost as much as a head gasket and sometimes a replacement engine.

    My guess is they want you to trade it in on a new car and give you a token $1500 for the v.

    Find a hybrid shop. You don't want to pay a dealer for a hg or engine replacement. Or trade it.

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  5. AnnaBiJou

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    Apologies for the super delayed reply. The car's in a shop, not the dealer, we're reasonably sure that it's a head gasket. They sound to be pretty good, they have a prius technician on staff that recently did a head gasket.
    The car itself, 104k miles roughly, I haven't had it for long, I want to say roughly I got it last fall.

    I've been doing a lot of looking up in my down time and discovered that some gas has detergent in it? I'm not sure if that's true or not, people I've talked to say we need to be getting top tier gas to prevent carbon build up, but then others say it doesn't matter unless you're concerned about a few mpg.
     
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    All gasoline has additives to clean fuel injectors, often called "detergents". As a result fuel injectors rarely get clogged no matter which gas is used.

    Some brands are known to have better cleaning additives with Chevron's often testing best. Most brand names justify higher prices by using more additives than necessary and call their gas "top tier" because of the increased additives.

    However engines which build up excessive carbon, primarily due to oil burning, can not clean their excessive carbon buildup with additives of any strength. Additives will keep the back of the valves acceptable if the engine is port injected (which sprays fuel of the back of those valves) and is not an oil burner.

    For an oil burning gen3 with low tension rings it takes a teardown or careful walnut blasting to clean the valves.

    In more recent engines with exclusively Direct Injectors pumping gas straight into the cylinder, no additive can do anything to the back of the valve. As a result Toyota now uses dual injection in the latest gen5 Prius and the last two Rav4 generations to name two.

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    Bottom line

    All gasoline has additives to clean fuel injectors and it works as designed. In a good engine with port injection, it will keep the back of valves acceptably clean.

    If you want a cleaner gen3 engine, mechanically repair oil burning when present and then change oil every 5k.

    or better yet

    Buy a Toyota with a dual injection engine.
     
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    Ask the mechanic that's working on the car; Does it look like "Stop-Leak" was added to the cooling system? If that was done; you may experience additional issues, down the road - like overheating issues. You haven't ran that car in the hot summer months, so you don't know. The temperature lamp in your dash lights up around 248+F, when the engine should be running around 185F-205F. You could be operating that car at 245F, all day long, without knowing it. That's hot enough to start breaking things, like head gaskets. You've got a large car driven by a small 1.8L engine. That electronic engine coolant pump is a silent killer of these cars. That should also be checked out and possibly changed while it's out of commission.
    Most people will install a P10 HUD to monitor engine coolant temperature, so they don't break anything. Think of it as an early warning system.

    Good Luck...