2018 Prius 3 engine vibration on decel and low throttle input

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by michaud85, Apr 19, 2026 at 6:30 AM.

  1. michaud85

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    Just bought a decent gen 4 with 81k miles. Drives great for the most part. When you accelerate to speed and then take foot off the throttle 95% of the way and hover rpm just above where the ICE is on, the engine will vibrate if you hold it right above the transition zone. In ev mode and at higher acceleration it drives well.

    I was thinking of cleaning intake manifold ports, egr pipe and egr valve and skipping the cooler (it looks like you have to move the inverter)

    I also thought maybe spark plugs but AI said it’s most likely not spark plugs because it would show symptoms through the full rpm range and to try cleaning the egr system.

    only posting because I saw on here that some people don’t have egr problems even at 300k

    coolant was at the low line when I bought it, just topped it off and drove about 200 miles yesterday for the first time.

    57 mpg average over the 200 miles.
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    just saw another post where it’s doing the same thing. He replaced his egr valve at just 40k miles. Neither of my scan tools can detect if the egr valve is stuck open. So I need to buy a third smh

    I’m going to buy all the gaskets and try cleaning EGR valve. It may be sticking from sitting around on the lot
     
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    @BiomedO1 this is my thread and I dont have any check engine codes or pending codes.
     
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    There is no scan tool that will tell you whether the valve is sticking open. You have to use other diagnostic skills for that.

    If you have roughness continuing at idle, when the EGR valve is supposed to be fully closed, that could be a reason to think the valve might be sticking open.

    If you have roughness that goes away at idle and at heavy load, both times when EGR is off, but the roughness is present at light/mid loads when EGR is meant to happen, then probably the valve is doing what it should, but the four EGR passages in the intake manifold are clogged up differently. That specific symptom pattern is pretty much pathognomonic of that.
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I assumed the PID for stepper motor position would tell me whether the Valve was moving or stuck in one place. I was planning on getting the computer that allows you to actuate the valve while reading the position.

    I will move forward with my plan to clean the Intake and passages this evening and take a look at the buildup in the EGR pipe and on the EGR Valve and report back.
     
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    It won't. The way a stepper motor works is you know where you think it is to start with, and then you send it a certain number of steps one way or the other, and keep track of how many steps you sent, so you know where you think it is now.

    The ECM keeps track of that by sending more than 110 steps in the 'close' direction when it wants the valve to be closed. The full range of travel is 110 steps, so by sending that many 'close' steps, the ECM assumes the valve got to fully closed, no matter where it started, and then steps counted from there will be known positions. If the valve is sticking, they'll just be wrong. That's not something you'll know from looking at the ECM's step count.

    There is no sensor on the valve that reports back its position, or tells you for sure it did or didn't step when you stepped it just now.
     
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