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    Hello all, I am new to the Prius world. I inherited my dads Prius when he had to go into the nursing home and recently passed. The car has about 250k miles on it and is doing rather well until today. I have put a new normal battery in it and a new hybrid battery in it back in November. Today when driving the battery indicator on the display screen was down to one bar. Normally it's full. I was able to get it up to just about halfway but it wasn't green. Driving home from work the red triangle of death came on and won't turn off. I shut the air off in hopes that would help. It's helped in the past. But so far no go. It makes a beeping sound when I go around a curve and before the red triangle would flash. Now it's saying problem and it's turning a light that looks like an oil can on. I just had an oil change done in March. And I know it's not the light that comes on for an oil change. It's also ticking when running. I haven't had the check engine light read yet. That will be a tomorrow thing. The tire light is always on and even though we have aired all the tires up it stays on. What concerns me is the battery indicator level (it's blue right now) and the red triangle of death. Another light that popped on for a hot minute was the circle inside the parentheses with the exclamation point in it. It wasn't on very long. The oomph that the car usually has doesn't seem to be there any more and the air wasn't as powerful as it usually is. To me that sounds like an alternator. But I am not sure. Whatever it is I hope its a cheap fix.
     

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    Who installed the new hybrid battery that you purchased? Does it have a warranty?

    Based on everything that you wrote, it probably is a problem with the hybrid battery. You need to get the trouble codes read by a scan tool. Once you get the trouble codes, then you will know what the problem is.
     
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    Yes.. read the codes. Also typically the battery have at least one year warranty.
     
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    Having an oil change done in March is pretty much irrelevant at this point. Did you check the oil level when you received the car back?

    That 'oil can' light (which I don't see in any of your photos) comes on when there is no oil pressure. No oil pressure means no oil. You need to stop running the engine immediately and do not run the engine or drive the car until you have checked the oil level on the dipstick. If there is no oil registering on the dipstick, add oil to the engine, initially 1 qt at a time, then check after adding each qt. Once you get oil registering on the dipstick, add ½ qt at a time, continue checking the level after adding each ½ qt. When the level is between ½ and ¾ the way up the dipstick, stop adding oil. Do not fill past the top F mark.

    Usually, when that 'oil can' light comes on, damage has already happened in the engine.
     
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    That could be a pack problem, but as others have pointed out, you need to read the codes to be sure, and that must be done with an OBD2 dongle that can see all the ECUs.

    New as in an OEM pack from Toyota, or as in a refurbished battery from "Joe's Bill'M and Leave Town Hybrid Batteries", or something in between, like GreenBean? Your options range from very good with the OEM pack to zilch for the fly by night pack rebuilder. Also some of the replacement packs use different chemistries or cell geometries. The proven gold standard for longevity are the Toyota prismatic modules.
     
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    ^ This. As long as you have the oil pressure light appearing, or the red triangle flashing when turning corners, there is no other problem the car has that's important enough to spend time on. Deal with the oil problem, promptly, or no other problems will matter.

    "No oil pressure means no oil" a lot of the time, but there can be other causes of no oil pressure. If the dipstick shows oil but the light still says no oil pressure, you still have an engine-destroying problem, that still needs to be found and fixed.

    The only time the oil-pressure light does not mean an engine-destroying problem is if the light is coming on falsely because of an electrical fault in the oil-pressure warning circuit. That's like the coin-landed-on-edge scenario and it isn't hard to check for. Unless you check and find that, the oil pressure light is dead serious.
     
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    My bad, didn't read the entire first post to the point where the OP mentioned the oil warning light. The light wasn't in any of the pictures posted. That is probably a good thing (not being in any of the pictures), because if there was a hole in the pan, the oil filter fell off, or any other "lose all the oil once and for all" conditions that light should be lit all the time. Ticking is not a good sign though.

    How common is an oil pump failure on this car? I don't recall ever reading about that happening in this car. It must be possible though, any pump can break.

    Recent oil change was noted - maybe there is a chunk of plastic wrap in the oil filter, intermittently blocking the flow?
     
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    Checking the dipstick is always a good first idea, no matter how recently an oil change was done. What the dipstick shows might not be what you expect.

    When the level gets low enough, the pump sucks air when you go around corners and the oil sloshes to the side of the pan, so you get flickers of warning at those times.

    It's after you've checked the dipstick, and made sure it wasn't low, that you then start thinking about more complicated possible reasons for low oil pressure.
     
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    I had a hybrid battery company install it. We had the code read yesterday and it was just the evap code that came up. We did add oil to it and it turned all the lights off except the check engine light. However it still ticks when giving gas and the battery isn't fully charged. It's not low to one bar but it's not full. It could go another 3 or 4 bars to full. I just wonder if the "alternator" isn't working well.

    I had the codes read. The only code it gave me was the evap code. I can reach out to the guy that did the install. Maybe he will be able to help with the battery issue. My son added oil to it and the red triangle of death light went away. So that helped. It still ticks when we give it gas but it's better.

    We did just that. I put two quarts of oil in it. That helped a ton. We read the codes and the only code that came up was the evap code. It still ticks when you give it gas. And the battery indicator on the screen is still not a full charge. It could go another 3 or 4 bars to be full. So I don't know what else could be wrong. I will send the pictures to the guy that installed the hybrid battery.

    The oil can light would only come on every once in a while. We did add oil to it and that helped a lot. I will have my son check the oil level today and see if we need to get more. We put two quarts in.

    The only code that comes up is the evap code. It was a new battery installed by a hybrid battery company. I paid a pretty penny for it that is for sure. We did end up having to add oil to the car. That helped. It still ticks when we give it gas. I am going to reach out to the battery guy and have my son check the oil again today.

    We did take care of that problem. It helped a ton.

    I wasn't able to get a pic of the oil can light. It came on and then would go right off. I did have my son add oil to it. We added two quarts. I am going to have him check the level again today. Adding oil did help. I don't know if the oil pump is failing. My dad bought it used almost two years ago. He passed away so I can't really ask any questions.
     
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    It might be burning oil. Keep monitoring it.

    My 2009's oil burning greatly reduced after using Valvoline RP. The level dropped from top of the dipstick mark to half within 2500 miles of city driving. Teenage driver also. Before it was double the amount. Basically it consumed .8 qt of oil (1.6 qt from top to bottom mark).
     
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    If adding oil helped, then the simple explanation is probably the right one, no need to get distracted with less likely causes.

    You'll have to form the habit of checking the dipstick frequently, every fillup at least. You want to add oil as soon as the dipstick shows the need. Waiting for the red engine-destroying-itself-now light is not a good way to find out when to add more.
     
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    Regarding the pack, what, exactly, is the manufacturer's description of the battery and how much did it cost?

    Regarding the ticking, make a recording and post it here, noting the conditions present at the time of the recording. If the car is in Park and the gas pedal is pressed so that the motor starts turning (in the MFD energy display), does the sound appear? If the rev's go up (judged by the sound you hear from the ICE) does the ticking rate increase to match? When the gas pedal is released does the ticking stop at the same time as the ICE motor goes from active to inactive in the MFD energy display?

    What is the evap code? The actual code. Be aware that many ODB2 devices cannot read all of the Prius's (many) ECUs. The Autel AP200 can. As a rule of thumb, if a mechanic hooks up a fairly large tablet sized code reader it will probably be able to get all the codes, but if they use the smallest sized dongle and read the values from their phone it is less likely to be able to do so. Some can though, the AP200 is the small dongle use a phone sort of device.

    Old 2nd generation Prius's often have gross oil burning problems. Like a quart every fill up, or every other fill up. You need to measure the oil loss rate on your vehicle to see how bad it is. Note also that a car may burn much more oil on the highway than around town. So if you just drive around town and find it uses a quart in 500 miles, do not assume you can go 500 on the highway and only use the same amount.
     
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    There is no alternator to fail.

    The real question for the hybrid battery company is what type of modules were put in. Were they 28 new Toyota nimh modules? Were they aftermarket nimh, lithium or sodium modules? Or were they "reconditioned" used Toyota nimh modules?

    Any of the above are often called "new" but only new Toyota nimh modules will last ten years or more. Each can cost $1500-$2500 installed.

    The oil issue is potentially capable of blowing an engine. There are only a little over 4 quarts in the first place. Some of these engines burn a quart every two fill ups and will run out well before a 5,000 mile oil change. Checking every couple of weeks is essential.
     
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