Hot Water Heater Timers

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by JSH, Feb 12, 2009.

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    I have read that propane is more costly than oil per btu, but I don't know details.
     
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    has anyone looked into Mr. Cool DIY systems. I've been reading and YouTubing, but results seem mixed. I might be able to gear myself up for the simplest installation which would be our MBR. first floor, the outdoor unit would be directly below the indoor, 120v nearby.
    $2,000. for materials vs $7,000. pro istall, but I would have no service.
     
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    These mentioned ductless issues are not unique to minisplit heat pumps, but common to all types of un-ducted, zoned HVAC systems. My home was built with zoned electric resistance heat, no cooling, no ducts, a very common type in this region.

    The "poor conditioning in adjacent spaces" issue is more a winter than summer issue here. My building envelope upgrades have helped considerably, new code-compliant construction should be better still.

    Only very recently did AC adoption climb above 50% of housing units in some Western Washington counties, while others still remain slightly below 50%.
    Census Bureau Releases New Local Estimates of Air Conditioning Access
    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/king-countys-cooling-divide-new-data-maps-our-ac-haves-and-have-nots/

    I can't speak to dehumidification issues as I've never lived in a climate zone needing more than simple exhaust fans (ideally on programmable timers) next to water sources, such as bathrooms and laundry. Inland from here for probably over a thousand miles eastwards, they have the opposite problem of natural humidity being lower than desirable. Last month my spouse's doctor even recommended getting a humidifier to increase our home humidity. (I declined after asking for a numeric target, and received an answer that we already met.)
     
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    i thought 50% was ideal. dehumidification is a big deal around here in summer, and humidification in winter, although our house with a boiler and radiators is more humid than our ild house with warm air.
    but the humidifier on that furnace was an ongoing maintenance problem
     
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    some friendly advice on Mr. Cool systems - look at the you tube reviews after the systems are a couple of years old.
     
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    You can get all the big brands as DIY if you want.* I really like the Fujitsu we most recently installed. Our oldest one is a Lennox, probably wouldn't get that brand again.

    *There will probably be limits or even total exclusions on warranties