Average lifetime of Prii?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bgoodr @ Aug 11 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]494230[/snapback]</div>

Sounds like they got their info from the CNW BS/crap that claims Priuses last 109K miles and that Hummer H2 last 197K miles. You can find some of my debunking at http://priuschat.com/index.php?s=&show...st&p=487126.

Based on the reliability ratings I attached, http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4023544 and http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/rele...pdf/2007130.pdf (or http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/rele...spx?ID=2007130), those outlaws have little credibility in my book.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bgoodr @ Aug 11 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]494230[/snapback]</div>

Remind him if he forgot, that the H2 and H3 are just Chevy pickups (SUV's) underneath. I will look for some links to back this up, but I have heard several people say this. As for Chevy trucks, they're built tough, and I would buy a chevy truck before I bought a Hummer. But I would not pay a premium just to drive a Chevy drivetrain with a makeover.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107776
The HUMMER H3 which shares its chassis with the Colorado and Canyon.....

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com...3-hummer-h2.htm

The H2 gets its 6.0-liter V8, 4-speed automatic transmission, and major chassis components from GM's full-size SUVs.....

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bgoodr @ Aug 12 2007, 02:57 AM) [snapback]494230[/snapback]</div>

Welcome to the site. Do a google search for Prius & taxi to find the reports of the Canadian taxi fleets with over 200,000 miles and no major problems. I like the suggestion of putting your money where your mouth is. Which Hummer does he own? Make the bet. First party to sell the vehicle loses. Void the wager in the event of a collision. You are betting on a sure thing. Don't argue or debate.

 

Hi Brent,
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bgoodr @ Aug 12 2007, 01:57 AM) [snapback]494230[/snapback]</div>

Guess I'd just smile and change the subject. When your wife gets back, you might read this report and ask if her if it needs to be mailed to her Dad, is he really curious, . . . or just keep clocking up the miles:
http://avt.inl.gov/pdf/hev/end_of_life_test_1.pdf

All of the hybrids completed 160,000 miles. The study continues and the testing page with all of the reports are here:
http://avt.inl.gov/hev.shtml

If the old man decides to bring it up, smile and point out the gas engine is loafing at 70% load because of the electric motors and the batteries are computer controlled so they operate using just 40% of their load. It will wear out someday but this computer controlled car is giving the engine and batteries an easy, long life.

Bob Wilson

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(catgic @ Aug 12 2007, 04:33 AM) [snapback]494241[/snapback]</div>

From the looks of things, probably not very. Besides the price of fuel, the cost of preventative maintenance should be included, as well. Those big 'ole tires that Hummers like wear out quickly and are substantially more expensive than the donuts Priuses roll on.

Just comparing the overall, general longevity of all Toyota products versus those made by GM would suggest that the Prius is going to last longer (likely substantially longer) than any Hummer, regardless of the complexity involved.

What will be truly interesting is the longevity of any comparable GM product (like the Volt, when and if it's ever produced) to the Prius. I would be seriously wary of purchasing any GM product (or any domestic product, for that matter) that was designed to operate at the level of complexity of the Prius. GM's track record on the longevity of regular ICE vehicles is rather abyssmal already, so more complex vehicles would lend themselves to being even worse. If the Prius had the little 'GM' badge on the side, I probably wouldn't have bought one for that reason alone.

In fact, GM's dropping of the EV1 electric vehicle before the Prius was released in the US may have actually been a blessing in disguise, considering the effect a problem-prone, production EV1 might have had on Prius sales.

 

Welcome to PC.

If I were you, I would just smile and be silent. He probably doesn't want to change his mind no matter what you say. Just be an example, and eventually he will realize he is wrong. It's better that way.

How many miles do you have in the Prius now?

 

I think your best bet is to ignore it and wait it out as well.

I got some ribbing when I first got my Prius. My brother called it "the golf cart" and my Dad reminds me not to drive in the rain in case I get electrocuted.

As time passes and the price of gas goes up, they're pretty quiet. My Mom likes to ride in it. My Dad finally rode in it and complimented it on it's power and quiet.

As time passes he'll evenutally shut up. He might even start to ask you questions about it. Who knows. Someday he might even trade that Hummer in for some kind of hybrid. Just try not to rub it in when he's replacing his timing belt or something.

 

I like the concept of a wager. But I would put more money on the table. Any modifications you want to add to your car (things like suspension upgrade, lightweight wheels, or...)? The wager is the surest way to get somebody else to fund your mod budget.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bwilson4web @ Aug 12 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]494284[/snapback]</div>

Thanks for the GREAT link! I'm adding this to my bookmarks.

The fact sheets were very interesting. I haven't finished looking at all of them, but I found it interesting/troubling that the high mileage HCHs and Insights seemed to have need at least 1 new transmission. They seemed to go around the 90K mile mark. Also, the two high mileage HCHs needed new cats at ~100K miles.

 

Hi bgoodr, I think you've got good responses. I'm inclined to recommending ignoring outlaws unless pressed. It puts your fine wife in the middle...

I also want to call your attention to the local HSD/Prius club, link in my signature. Come join us some third Saturday.

 

Jesse's 2002 Prius:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(john1701a @ Aug 13 2007, 04:17 AM) [snapback]494608[/snapback]</div>

310K! That is incredible! What all has had to be replaced during the journey to 310K? Maybe we should have a sticky where members can post their highest mileage.... Moderators?