10% Of New Vehicles Purchased in California Are EVs

incentives work!

 

Well if you go back to 2012, West Virginia had the best of the best $7500 tax credit on Plug-ins and other green cars. So they were selling like hot cakes...I think even flex fuel vehicles qualified. The fun stopped I believe April-2013, but not before one WV guy on here got two PiP's for $25000 in NY. So that would be $10000 off each PiP after Fed tax rebates. Perhaps if the WV tax credit was not so extremely generous they could have longer lasting impact. WV even had, that if you could not use the whole tax credit, you could just keep carrying over year to year until you got the whole credit.

 

iirc, the $7500 was fed. actually, the state of Georgia beat the heck out of every state's rebate rate. At one time they were giving $5K per EV! Couple that with the $7,500 from the feds, and it really made for affordability.
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Well WVa plug-in credit was short-lived but it was $7500.
This older PiP sticky thread contains stories from excited WVa Prius Chat members.
https://priuschat.com/threads/federal-and-state-incentives-for-plug-ins-evs.115723/

 

Wow - I stand corrected. I shall now go take my seat

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I think that’s great. I went from buying a ice car to complement my Prius to a Tesla. It’s amazing tech. I will say Prius opened my mind to this type of car given the Prius usss batteries.

 

I don't disagree, but I also don't think it's the incentive you are thinking of.

I lived in Los Angeles 1996-2001, and have typically spent a month or so per year visiting ever since. I've seen the roads, drivers and traffic change over that time.

It's the carpool lane access. When they first started offering solo carpool lane access, it was like invasion of the body snatchers. People's eyes would glaze over, they'd stop responding to questions and reflexively do what. ever. it. took. to get the sticker.

So... if you need southern California level traffic (plus a bunch of already-built, yet unused carpool lanes) in order to create that incentive... other cities might want to find a different sweetener.

 

Well here are the final year end numbers from CNCDA.org and ElectricDrive.org:

USA 2018
PHEV 119,894
BEV 94813

Ca. 2018
PHEV 62846 52%
BEV 94813 39%

The big thing this year was the Model 3 intro which skewed the BEV numbers noticeably upwards. Also Ca. had the HOV sticker expiration pushing up numbers, but that should actually be a continuous effect as motorists strive to get back their lost HOV access by buying new plug-ins.

Also I would say the quarterly numbers always showed California way ahead like 55% of BEV, but the year end numbers never seem to agree with quarterly numbers, so in the future I am just going to have to wait to year end.

 

Now if the ‘boring’ company can put in underground express lanes or expand the subway. Actually I’d like to see moving walkways with 3-5 lanes each +5 mph faster.

Bob Wilson

 

10% of sales is not all that much when you compare total sales of new cars in California. Honda Civic is the number 1 selling car in California.

 

...and I do not believe that article was saying 10% for the year, they were saying 10% BEV in August at one point in time when Model 3 was absolute hottest.

We can look at Ca. 2018 year end now, which was about 4.7% BEV and 3.1 % PHEV, compared to about 3% each last year. Hybrids were 4.1%.

One thing to say about this is Califoirnia's huge incentives for plug-ins over hybrids is hurting the best USA market for hybrids.

 

And Wisconsin saw what California did and thought they could improve on it by doing the opposite

 

Why the change in WI? Were incentives changed?

 

Wisconsin has never incentivized anything except sand haulers, lumber and farm.
The cheapest vehicle to register is my truck, all my cars pay additional wheel tax.

The change in the graph was almost instant when gov Scott & Fitzgerald started talking about Milwaukee Prius and EV cheapskates not paying their fair share and that they would do something to remedy the situation in the upcoming budget.

The remainder of the drop in sales occurred after the budget passed and then Walker got booted out.

Fitzgerald who has been hawking his “Prius tax” since 2008 won by a landslide and is still the majority leader.

 

i was thinking of the financial incentives. but the hov lane problem suffers from enforcement, which is true for all aspects of human activity.

would it be that difficult to issue a transponder like fast pass?

 

So the USA and CA counts for BEV are the exact same?