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120v to 240v EVSE Modification

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by Redpoint5, Feb 8, 2015.

  1. giora

    giora Senior Member

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    I assume this measurement was taken recently, if so it means (to me) that your battery can no longer hold 4.4 kWh and the usable (23-85%) is reduced as well to about 2.5-2.6 kWh (and EV range accordingly).
    I remember members reported here in the past ~2.25-3.3 kWh from wall with L1 and new battery.
    I believe L1 charging losses are 15-17% typically and L2 10-11% with the PiP charger (they said charger efficiency was improved with the Prime) and the reduction in kWh input measured from a known starting point is a good indication for the battery and EV range degradation, it has a very good correlation in my case.
     
  2. CaliforniaBear

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    The total battery capacity is 4.4 kWh. The range used (not usable range) is about 20% to 85% or 2.9 kWh. It takes about 3.3 kWh for a full charge since the charging voltage is greater than the discharge voltage. After 4 years of operation I still show about 13 EV full charge miles available in the months I'm not using the A/C. This has been pretty much the same for all 4 years.
     
  3. giora

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    That is fantastic, most of us do see battery and EV range degradation in time and use (I think 2.5-3.5% per year is typical reported).
    What was your kill-a-watt kWh reading during the first year for the same start SOC as reported above?

    From the manual:
    The hybrid battery (traction battery) capacity (the ability to hold a charge) reduces with time and use in the same way as other rechargeable batteries.
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    Also, even though the EV driving range decreases when the hybrid battery (traction battery) capacity reduces, vehicle performance does not significantly become worse.
     
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    My kWh charging amount has also dropped about 10% over 4 years. The estimated EV miles for a full charge hasn't dropped as much probably due to having changed my EV/HV switching habits. Living on a hill I more often switch to HV on the way home instead of draining the usable kWh as much. Last summer I made several 30 mile round trips a day for about 6 weeks and the estimate was up to 16.5 miles.
     
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    Looks like it should work, in principle. But when I removed the back cover on mine, it looks like it was going to take some exploratory surgery that I haven't had time for yet. Very different layout with the Toyota EVSE having a big circuit board hiding everything. Has anyone looked under there yet?