1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

2010 Prius Starting Issues - No MFD

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by 2O1OPrius, Apr 20, 2021.

Tags:
  1. 2O1OPrius

    2O1OPrius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    5
    1
    0
    Location:
    Magnolia DE
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    I am having an odd issue with the my daughters 2010 Prius II - 174,000 miles. You can start and drive the Prius in the morning when its cool, but after you drive it and let it sit in the sun (car is black) the interior heats up and quite frequently the car will not start. When you get in the power on button does not light up and nothing displays on the MDF, but the open door and a flashing lock. The key fob will open the doors, tailgate, and lights all come on. The car just will not do anything when you push the power button. If you open the back hatch and car doors and let it cool down for bit it will eventually start.

    So far I have replaced the 12v battery (it was last replaced in 2016) along with all the batteries in the key fobs. I also checked the brake switch - it is fine. I also have a bluetooth ODB2 scanner and I have no codes. I'm kind of stumped here. Any thoughts or ideas would be much appreciated.
     
    #1 2O1OPrius, Apr 20, 2021
  2. PriusCamper

    PriusCamper Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    10,898
    4,418
    0
    Location:
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Get one of these devices: Hybrid battery diagnostic and repair tool for Toyota and Lexus and install Dr. Prius app on your phone... It will show you hybrid battery temp and other data that might help diagnose.
     
    #2 PriusCamper, Apr 20, 2021
  3. wheezyglider

    wheezyglider Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    247
    177
    0
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    That's a puzzle. I assume that without pressing the brake you're not getting into accessory mode either?

    If you haven't done so, search these forums for the repair manual download and take a look at the section called "Smart Key System (for Starting)" and see if it gives you any useful ideas. I took a brief look and it wasn't obvious to me what component would most likely cause your symptoms, but I'm curious to see how it pans out...
     
    #3 wheezyglider, Apr 22, 2021
  4. 2O1OPrius

    2O1OPrius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    5
    1
    0
    Location:
    Magnolia DE
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    Yes you are correct - I cannot get into accessory mode at all. Thank you for the tip. I'll research and see what I can find.

    Thanks
     
    #4 2O1OPrius, Apr 22, 2021
  5. 2O1OPrius

    2O1OPrius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    5
    1
    0
    Location:
    Magnolia DE
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    I'm still working on this issue and sadly I've spent almost $2800 between a local Toyota dealer and a local Prius mechanic. The Prius will be fine for a few days and then will start having no-starts again. I get the following DTC codes for Smart Key system (B2786 and B278C) I also see a Power Source Control DTC code B2287.

    Not sure what else to do at this point. The car runs and drives great, but at this point I believe I have a wiring issue somewhere in the car. If anyone knows of a good mechanic in the Delaware area please let me know.
     
    #5 2O1OPrius, May 31, 2021
  6. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,673
    38,214
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Mice?
     
    #6 Mendel Leisk, May 31, 2021
  7. 2O1OPrius

    2O1OPrius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    5
    1
    0
    Location:
    Magnolia DE
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    Yeah that is what I've wondered about. This all started around January 2020.
     
    #7 2O1OPrius, May 31, 2021
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  8. wheezyglider

    wheezyglider Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    247
    177
    0
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    Those DTCs relate to the LIN Communication System - specifically the LIN bus connecting the ECUs involved here: Transmission control ("is it in Park?"), Certification (smart key), and Power management control. These ECUs are physically located behind the passenger side dash. They would be connected by harness that probably runs over to the driver side dash fuse panel.

    Each of the DTCs has a test procedure in the Repair Manual that includes checking specific pins on specific connectors. I'd hope that a paid mechanic would have checked those per the manual, upload_2021-5-31_14-55-27.png upload_2021-5-31_14-56-52.png upload_2021-5-31_14-58-30.png upload_2021-5-31_15-18-34.png upload_2021-5-31_15-18-55.png upload_2021-5-31_15-19-51.png *during* the no-start problem situation.

    The temperature dependent aspect of the problem makes it tricky. It would be interesting to see if a hairdryer aimed at those ECUs could replicate the problem.

    upload_2021-5-31_14-55-27.png
    upload_2021-5-31_14-56-52.png


    upload_2021-5-31_14-58-30.png

    upload_2021-5-31_15-18-55.png

    upload_2021-5-31_15-19-51.png
     
    #8 wheezyglider, May 31, 2021
    2O1OPrius likes this.
  9. 2O1OPrius

    2O1OPrius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    5
    1
    0
    Location:
    Magnolia DE
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    Thank you for the info @wheezyglider!!! I'll keep you posted on my progress.
     
    #9 2O1OPrius, May 31, 2021
  10. wheezyglider

    wheezyglider Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    247
    177
    0
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Five
    Sure -- you're really gonna want to download that manual, those excerpts are just a taste. (Of course, your mechanics should have seen it already through their TIS subscriptions.)
     
    #10 wheezyglider, May 31, 2021
    2O1OPrius and Mendel Leisk like this.
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)