2017 Toyota Prius Prime: 25 Miles EV Range, 54 MPG, $22,600*

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    The Prius Prime will have 25 miles of all-EV range, get 54 MPG/133 MPGe, and cost only $22,600 after $4,500 tax credit.

    Model # Grade MSRP** W/ Fed Credit
    1 1235 Prius Prime Plus $27100 $22600
    2 1237 Prius Prime Premium $28800 $24300
    3 1239 Prius Prime Advanced $33100 $28600


    ** Before $4,500 federal tax credit and any local incentives ($2,000 in California).

    Here is Toyota's full press release:

    PRIME MOVER: TOYOTA MAXES OUT TECH AND STYLE IN THE WORLD’S BEST-SELLING HYBRID TO CREATE THE 2017 PRIUS PRIME
    • The Ultimate Prius with Toyota’s Most Efficient Hybrid Powertrain
    • Class Leading Manufacturer’s Projected EPA-estimated 133 MPGe/55 MPG City
    • Class Leading Standard Safety Systems with Toyota Safety Sense P
    • Great Overall Vehicle Value – Class-leading Starting Price
    • Techno-wonder with Available 11.6-inch HD Multimedia Display, Head-up Display and Wireless Phone Charging

    Prime mover. Prime cut. Prime minister. Prime attraction. And for Trekkers, there’s the Prime Directive. “Prime” means best or top, and so it was a natural to use it for the most technologically advanced, best-equipped Toyota Prius in the model’s nearly two-decade global history. The 2017 Prius Prime represents the pinnacle of efficiency and technology for the new-generation Prius, with a new dual-motor hybrid powertrain with a remarkable 2017 Manufacturer’s projected EPA-estimated 133 MPGe (miles per gallon equivalent), the highest MPGe rating of any Hybrid with a plug.

    That also represents a substantial 26-percent enhancement over its predecessor model, the Prius Plug-in Hybrid, the result of greater battery capacity and an improved hybrid system. In hybrid mode, the Prius Prime stands out again, exceeding all competitors’ fuel economy ratings with Manufacturer’s projected EPA-estimated 55 city/53 highway/54 combined MPG.

    The 2017 Prius Prime combines an electrifying design with an even more capable electric powertrain than the previous-generation model. In fact, the Prius Prime will have class-leading total drive range with a Manufacturer’s projected EPA-estimated 640 miles! And, Prius Prime will offer a Manufacturer’s projected EPA-estimated range of up to 25 miles up to 84 mph in EV mode, with the goal in mind of meeting the daily commuter distance of over half of U.S. drivers. As thrifty with fuel as the Prius Prime may be, in EV mode it drives with unexpected verve and excitement. Exclusive suspension tuning gives the Prime an enhanced planted stance through curves.

    All Prius models are built around Toyota’s New Global Architecture (TNGA) and feature double-wishbone independent rear suspension. You’ll find that kind of suspension on the best sport sedans, and it can work the same wonders for handling and ride quality in a super-efficient hybrid, too. The trailing-arm design allows increased luggage space, in this case an outstanding EPA-estimated 19.8 cu. ft. with the rear seatbacks in use.

    Prime Safety

    Prius Prime adds even more premium touches and exclusive tech features compared to the all-new Prius liftback, including its available vertically oriented 11.6-inch HD multimedia screen and an available full color head-up display.

    Notably, the Prius Prime comes standard with more active safety features of any hybrid in its class. Among the many safety features is standard Toyota Safety SenseTM P (TSS-P). This multi-feature advanced active safety suite bundles the Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection and Automatic Braking; Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist; Full-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control with full stop technology and Automatic High Beams. The Prius Prime Advanced model also comes with standard Blind Spot Monitor and Rear Cross Traffic Alert.

    All 2017 Prius Prime models come equipped with eight supplemental restraint system airbags, including driver and front passenger Advanced Airbag System; driver and front-passenger seat mounted side airbags; front and rear side curtain airbags; a driver knee airbag, and a front passenger seat cushion airbag.

    Prime Engineering

    TNGA strength greatly contributes to the high level of handling responsiveness, steering feel and ride quality in the Prius Prime. Hot-stamped and high tensile steels, which allow for intricate forms that are both lightweight and strong, are used extensively throughout the body. Aluminum components, including the hood and brake calipers, help keep vehicle weight in check. Innovative fastening methods, including laser screw welding and advanced adhesives, contribute to structural strength.

    Additional weight savings come from a Toyota-made lightweight carbon-fiber rear hatch, which also makes opening and closing almost effortless.

    Prime Design

    If the 2017 Prius Prime looks like the future, it was purely intentional on the designers’ part. The Prius Prime measures 6.5 inches longer, 0.6 inches wider and 0.8 inches lower than the model it replaced. The gasoline engine, electric motor and seating positions were lowered to increase front and rear head room while at the same time achieving a low, aerodynamic stance.

    Prius drivers have long cherished the unique design of their vehicles, so Toyota took the concept even further with the Prius Prime. This new hybrid shares the same silhouette as the standard Prius liftback models but gets a unique look with exclusive front and rear fascias, bumpers and lighting systems. Ultra-low profile LED headlights and the large acrylic grille that compliments the presence of the air intakes evoke a more advanced EV image. The design also draws a connection to the revolutionary Toyota Mirai hydrogen vehicle.

    The wind-cheating body and its high-strength/low weight structure are critical factors in the Prius Prime’s remarkably low energy consumption. Its 0.25 coefficient of drag is among the lowest for current production sedans. Automatic grille shutters help reduce drag by closing when airflow to the radiator is not needed. Another unique detail, the 15-inch aluminum alloy wheels feature aerodynamic covers painted in a two-tone scheme.

    Yet the Prius Prime is no aero jellybean. The chiseled profile and edgy character lines seem to dare the wind to stand in its way.

    The energy-conserving quad LED headlights glow like diamonds cutting the night, but they don’t blind oncoming drivers, thanks to its standard Automatic High Beams (AHB). Using an on-
    board camera, the system is designed to detect approaching vehicles or a vehicle traveling ahead and also measure the surrounding environment’s light (such as street light brightness) and adjust accordingly.

    Don’t panic; you are seeing double when you look at the liftback’s glass. Exclusive to the Prius Prime, the “dual wave” rear window catches the eye while letting the wind slip by. Also unique to the Prius Prime, a full-width LED rear combination lamp panel leaves an unforgettable nighttime signature, with a shape that follows the contour of the spoiler and the double-wave window. A full-width aero glass panel below the rear spoiler, plus a standard backup camera, aid rearward visibility.

    Accentuating the Prius Prime’s futuristic lines are four standard paint color choices including Classic Silver Metallic, Magnetic Gray Metallic, Titanium Glow and Blue Magnetism (available only on Prius Prime), plus two premium colors, Blizzard Pearl and Hypersonic Red.

    EV or Hybrid? Both.

    The Prius Prime will please anyone who wants to reduce trips to the gas pump, and it makes a great road trip car, too. The Prius Prime is designed to drive in EV mode in more situations, helping to enhance total vehicle driving range.

    The Prius Prime also offers other drive modes to give the driver options depending on their needs: EV Auto Mode and Hybrid Mode: EV Auto Mode will automatically rely more on its electric capability, especially in urban and suburban driving during shorter trips. But in situations where it is more efficient to run the gasoline engine, up steep hills for example, the extremely efficient engine will engage. In Hybrid Mode, the Prius Prime runs primarily on the gasoline engine with support of the electric motor. It efficiently combines the engine drive force and the electric power from the hybrid battery.

    The Prius Prime can even optimize range by memorizing the driver’s stopping patterns on frequently driven routes and suggesting when to let off the accelerator. Available Predictive Efficient Drive with Predictive Deceleration Support collects daily driving data to predict points of deceleration and stopping. From then on, when the driver goes through a location in the database, the system indicates when to let off the accelerator and can apply assisted deceleration to help boost fuel efficiency.

    Mechanical Genius

    Both the standard Prius hybrid and the Prius Prime are powered by Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive powertrain, which seamlessly combines the output of the gasoline engine and electric motor through a planetary-type continuously variable transmission. The biggest difference is that the Prius Prime can be plugged in to recharge its larger 8.8kWh lithium-ion battery pack – more than double that of the Prius Plug-in Hybrid it replaces.

    To help make extended EV mode driving range possible using Hybrid Synergy Drive, Toyota modified the system. For the first time in a Toyota hybrid, the system uses a “dual motor drive.” Toyota didn’t add another motor, however. Rather, a new one-way clutch engages both the generator (MG1) and electric drive motor (MG2) for drive force, the first time MG1 has been used for that purpose. Regenerative braking recaptures electrical energy under deceleration and braking and stores it in the battery, which helps to reduce fuel consumption.

    There’s no special equipment needed for home charging. Just plug the Prius Prime into a standard household outlet (Toyota recommends using a dedicated GFI 15A outlet) using the supplied cable. Charging using a standard household outlet takes less than five-and-a-half hours, or approximately two hours when using a public charger or other 240V source.

    To enhance the ownership experience and allow customers to get the most out of their Prius Prime, Toyota has partnered with ChargePoint, the world’s largest public charging network. ChargePoint provides access to more than 30,000 charging spots, the majority of which are free to users today. Add to that an updated suite of Prius Prime Apps that manage vehicle charging, climate control, location services and other vehicle functions, and owners will experience a new type of connection to their vehicles.

    Engine of Change

    Not to be overshadowed by all the electrical action, the Prius Prime’s gasoline engine also plays a starring role in that efficiency. The 1.8-liter Atkinson-cycle, 4-cylinder engine, used in all 2017 Prius liftback models, expects a groundbreaking 40-percent-plus thermal efficiency. Most modern automobile engines reach about 25-30 percent.

    Dig into the specs, and you’ll find a very high compression ratio of 13.0:1, yet like all Prius models, the Prius Prime runs on regular-grade gasoline. Myriad details throughout the hybrid powertrain contribute to its efficiency: an exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system with a cooler; a smaller, lighter, quieter hybrid system water pump, and an exhaust heat recirculation system that speeds engine warm-up.

    The combined net output for the Prime’s hybrid system is 121 hp. The effect of the electric motor and the planetary-type continuously variable transmission give the Prius Prime a spunky, responsive attitude in urban driving. On the highway, in battery mode, the silence is quite serene, indeed. The Prius Prime remains a quiet cruiser in all drive modes thanks to the sound-insulating laminated windshield and front door glass, comprehensive sound insulation measures and the optimized aero shape that helps keep wind noise where it belongs – outside.

    Looks Marvelous, Feels Marvelous

    On the inside, the Prius Prime looks and feels far from frugal. Its four-seat cabin layout, with center console in both front and back, feels far more premium. The rear-seat console offers generous storage capacity. Practicality is a Prius Prime strong suit, with standard 60/40 folding rear seatbacks unaffected by the larger battery.

    The Prius Prime coddles the driver and passengers with standard heated front seats, an automatic climate control system, and available SofTex® synthetic leather trimmed seats. The climate control system runs very quietly thanks to an electric compressor. Toyota calls the system “smart-flow,” because it focuses airflow only to areas where occupants are seated in order to help maximize fuel economy and comfort.

    The Prius Prime goes above and beyond to ensure both a comfortable cabin temperature and optimal EV performance in cold weather. The climate control system can also operate without the engine running, with a heat pump that allows the system to cool or heat the cabin while driving in EV mode. The heat pump can function without the engine running in weather down to 14 degrees F, where a conventional heat pump system could only function with the temperature above 32 F. So, you can count on getting cabin heat quickly even with a cold powertrain, with comfort augmented by standard heated front seats.

    On cold days, a battery warmer activates at the end of a charge to keep the battery temperature above 32 F, ensuring that it can deliver optimal EV performance and range when the vehicle is started. On the top-line Prius Prime Advanced model the driver can activate the remote air conditioning system with a key fob or smartphone app to cool the interior before entering the cabin.

    Information At A Glance

    The centrally mounted gauge panel, a Prius hallmark since the model’s inception, appears to float above the dashboard. The panel features dual 4.2-inch full-color multi-information displays, and the driver can change their content by using steering wheel controls. Customizable screens include Energy Monitor, Hybrid System and Climate Control Indicator, along with a suite of “Eco” features: Eco Score, Eco Savings Record, Drive Monitor, and Eco Diary. Other screens provide displays for driver support systems, audio system content, and navigation system content.

    Grade Strategy

    Toyota’s grade strategy for Prius Prime includes grades, Prime Plus, Prime Premium and Prime Advanced, each with successively more amenities and technology. Prius Prime Plus starts with a long roster of standard features, including fabric-trimmed heated front seats with armrests and seatback pockets; power windows with auto up/down; smart-flow climate control system with pollen filtration; integrated navigation and backup camera; dual sun visors with illuminated vanity mirrors and heated power outside mirrors.

    The standard SofTex-trimmed tilt/telescopic steering wheel integrates controls for audio, climate, the Multi-Information Display and Bluetooth® hands-free phone. Additional user tech includes the Smart Key System (on driver side) with Push Button Start. To power devices, there’s a 12V auxiliary power outlet up front, and another in the rear, plus one front USB power outlet.

    Stepping up to the Prius Prime Premium nets more technology, comfort and convenience. EntuneTM technology goes big-screen with the 11.6-inch vertical HD multimedia display. The Smart Key System with Push Button Start is expanded to three doors and includes remote illuminated entry. Comfort moves up a few notches with SofTex-trimmed heated front seats with armrests and seatback pockets. The driver gets an 8-way power adjustable seat with power lumbar support.

    Want to cut the cord, or at least leave it home? The Prius Prime Premium comes with wireless cell phone charging for Qi-compatible devices; just place a compatible phone on the console charging pad.

    Prime Advanced

    More luxury and tech enters the picture in the Prius Prime Advanced, which adds a heated steering wheel, remote climate control system, rain-sensing variable intermittent windshield wipers and auto-dimming rearview mirror with HomeLink® universal transceiver.

    LED fog lights help bolster visibility, while a color head-up display (HUD) helps the driver keep focused on the road by projecting vital information onto the lower portion of the windshield. HUD displays include speedometer, hybrid battery charge Hybrid System Indicator navigation and the various systems within TSS-P.

    The safety tech roster grows with Blind Spot Monitor (BSM) with Rear Cross-Traffic Alert (RCTA) and Safety Connect®, which includes Emergency Assistance, Stolen Vehicle Locator, Roadside Assistance and Automatic Collision Notification. (Includes complimentary three-year trial subscription).

    Prime Parking

    In the urban jungle, where hunting for a prime parking space is a sport, the Prius Prime Advanced wins. Its standard Intelligent Clearance Sonar (ICS) with Intelligent Parking Assist (IPA) uses ultrasonic wave sensors to size up a parallel parking space and then, when activated by the driver, can steer the car into it. The system can also reverse the vehicle into a perpendicular space and automatically steer it out of a parallel space. If you drive into a tight spot, such as a narrow alley or driveway, Intelligent Clearance Sonar provides visible and audible warnings if you get too close to obstacles on the vehicle’s sides.

    Entune Delivers Prime Multimedia

    Sound, vision and information in the Prius Prime likewise meet the standard of the car’s name. The Prius Prime Plus comes standard with the comprehensive EntuneTM Premium Audio with Integrated Navigation system and Entune App Suite®. This easy-to-use multimedia system brings a world of music and information through a 7.0-inch high-resolution touch-screen with split screen display and includes: Integrated Navigation System; AM/FM, six speakers; auxiliary audio jack; USB 2.0 port with iPod® connectivity and control; advanced voice recognition; hands-free phone capability, phone book access and music streaming via Bluetooth® wireless technology, plus Siri® Eyes Free mode and an integrated backup camera display.

    The EntuneTM Multimedia Bundle adds to that AM/FM cache radio (letting you pause songs and play later), HD Radio, HD Radio Traffic, HD Radio Weather; SiriusXM All Access Radio with 3-month complimentary trial, and Gracenote album cover art.

    And the list keeps going with the EntuneTM App Suite adding yet more music sources, including Slacker Radio, iHeartRadio and Pandora®. Apps also give you Destination Search, MovieTickets.com, OpenTable®, Facebook Places, YelpTM plus real-time traffic, weather, fuel prices, sports and stocks. Access to EntuneTM services is subscription-free.

    On the Big Screen

    The Prius Prime Plus puts that multimedia smorgasbord on a bright 11.6-in. high- resolution multimedia display. Suffice it to say navigation graphics and album cover art look stunning on the big screen. Tablet-like operation for this vertically oriented screen, including pinch and zoom functionality, will be immediately familiar to most drivers. Capacitive touch switches flank the screen on both sides, providing easy access to major functions. This upgrade also includes the Charging Station Map App, and this version of Entune goes all-in on playing digital music from an iPod or other device, or streaming. There’s no CD player; goodbye, 1990s.

    But Wait, There’s More.

    To all of the above, the Prius Prime Advanced adds JBL® Audio with Prime Apps. That means 10 JBL® GreenEdgeTM speakers and Prime Apps for Smartphone with 3-year complimentary trial. Prime Apps include Remote Charge Management, Charging Station Map, ECO Dashboard, Remote Climate and Vehicle Finder. With them, the Prius Prime owner can remotely manage the vehicle’s charging schedule and status, locate charging stations, track and compare your eco driving score with others on social media, remotely control the vehicle’s climate system, and more – all from a smartphone. It’s advanced eco at your fingertips. (Access to Prius Prime Apps requires an active Safety Connect subscription after the 3-year complimentary trial.)

    Great Pricing Equals Prime Value

    With the all-new Prius Prime loaded with active safety features, an array of comfort, convenience amenities, packed with advanced technology, and an ultra-efficient powertrain, one would expect pricing to take a giant leap skyward. Not so. When the Prius Prime goes on sale later this year, it will complete a great value story by carrying a manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) that will range from $27,100 for the Prius Prime Plus grade, to $33,100 for the Prius Prime Advanced grade.

    Prius Prime MSRPs do not include a delivery, processing and handling fee of $865. The DPH fee for vehicles distributed by Southeast Toyota (SET) and Gulf States Toyota (GST) may vary.

    Peace of Mind Warranty Protection

    Toyota’s 36-month/36,000 mile basic new-vehicle warranty applies to all components other than normal wear and maintenance items. Additional 60-month warranties cover the powertrain for 60,000 miles and against corrosion with no mileage limitation. The hybrid-related components, including the HV battery, battery control module, hybrid control module and inverter with converter, are covered for eight years/100,000 miles. In applicable states hybrid-related component coverage is 15 years/150,000 miles with the exception of the hybrid battery, which is covered for 10 years/150,000 miles.

    The Prius Prime also comes standard with Toyota Care, a complimentary plan covering normal factory-scheduled maintenance for two years or 25,000 miles, whichever comes first. Prius models include three years of 24-hour roadside assistance from date of purchase.
     
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    Yeah!

    Price did indeed end up aggressive, as Toyota has been working really hard to deliver and we had hoped for.

    We've been waiting for that official 25-mile rating for awhile too. Knowing Toyota so well, doing the calculations, and approximating based on other markets made it a strong case of getting more than 22. After all, we often got more from the 11-mile estimate from PHV.

    Thanks for the info and the updates.
     
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    Very nice price point!
     
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    Wow! This is totally awesome! It actually makes me real sad now that the 5th seat option became the deal breaker for me :( but wow great facts epa rating and price point. I believe the majority of prius chat drivers will be able to push this 30+ ev miles.
     
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    This might eat into regular Prius LB sales. So seriously, if the Solar roof adds $3,000, that means the Prius Prime Advance with the Solar Roof would be less than the original 2012-13 Prius Plug-in Advanced. Then it would have not only a charge recovery mode but a passive charge recovery mode as well.


    Unsupervised!
     
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    WOW! Cheapest way to get into the HOV lane in California? How many won't plug in?
     
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    great write up danny, thank you!
    it will take a few lift back sales no doubt, but people will have to think long and hard about trading 5 seats and a flat hatch. then there's the whole plug thing. i don't think it will move that many regular prius buyers.
     
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    how does the trailing arm design increase luggage space? is it larger than gen 3?
     
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    Considering that the Plus is almost as well equipped as the Three (it's missing the Qi charger, 3-door SKS, and remote illumination, but gains heated seats), yet after just the federal tax credits, is about $2k cheaper than the Two... I think it will grab quite a few Liftback sales. As long, of course, as you are OK with the loss of cargo space and the fifth seat. Even if it's never plugged in, there's some areas where it can still make sense even ignoring the price - consider that descending a mountain in the Liftback is something that involves spinning the ICE to burn off speed, whereas the Prime will be able to do a lot more regen, and use less fuel as a result.

    Would've been nice if remote preconditioning (smartphone preconditioning of course would need Safety Connect) were a thing on trims below Advanced, but otherwise, very interestingly priced package.
     
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    predictive deceleration support? that is going to be interesting!
     
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    The tax credit for PHVs and BEVs in Colorado is going to a fixed $5,000 on January 1st. That means my total credit is $9,500 making it quite a lot cheaper than the liftback.

    The packages are messed up but I'll probably bite the bullet and get the advanced due to the large tax credit and the fact that it has a couple things I won't due without (primarily the HUD).
     
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    I'm wondering if you can turn it off.


    Unsupervised!

    Darn double posting. This time I didn't hit reply twice.

    But oooh, heated steering wheel!

    Unsupervised!
     
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    haven' heard that, are you talking colorado? also, i thought the fed was $4,000.?
     
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    Here's how the federal credit works:

    $2500 for having at least 4 kWh
    $417 more for having at least 5 kWh
    $417 per kWh above 5 kWh.

    So, $2917 for having at least 5 kWh, $1584.6 for the 3.8 kWh above 5, for $4501.60. Round to the nearest dollar, and it's $4502.
     
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    Fed, $4,500, Colorado $5,000.
     
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    ...we're saying Prime is not DOA, right?
    I've been saying that all along (because I was expecting more CA HOV stickers all along).
    I never thought we'd have had Prime unless Toyota knew we had more green stickers coming.

    >>There is an implication I did not expect, that either the Li batteries are cheaper than I thought, or Toyota is willing to sacrifice profit margin...seems to be the cheaper Li batts at least in part
     
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    Here is the preliminary summary of state incentives..sounds like CO is changing on Jan-1?
    That $5000 would be incredible...can't beat WV $7500 off on PiP, but that's long gone.

    Prius Prime Preliminary State Tax Credit Discussion | PriusChat
     
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    cali will help, but i think prime was coming either way. it should sell decently in all 50 states.
     
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    Yeah, I wasn't expecting pricing that would sharply undercut the Liftback after tax credits.

    Plus is basically a Two And Three Quarters trim, and undercuts Two vastly. Premium is a Four Plus Power Seats Plus Big Screen trim, and STILL undercuts Two. Advanced is Four Plus ATP (minus sunroof) Plus PCP Plus Big Screen, and it undercuts the standard Four.
     
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    "The more a driver drives, the more driving data is collected, and the more locations for
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    this function on or off
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    If Az had a rebate like that I think I'd bite the bullet too and trade in the PiP. I still want to see this thing in person, but it sounds pretty exciting.
     
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    Anyone know if special equipment is need to use a 240V outlet?
    I've got both outlets (120 and 240) in the garage and can only use the 120V with the 2012 PiP without paying more for some type of specialized charger.
     
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    All you would need is a 240v (level II) EVSE with the correct plug for your 240 receptacle. I strongly suggest ClipperCreek.
     
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    I've got a Tesla charger in the garage. Would be nice if I could add an adapter. I'm assuming the Prime will come with the 120V cable/system, but not with the 240 V setup. I wouldn't pay extra to charge the prime at 240 instead of 120.
     
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