2018 Prius oil filter is a spin on now?

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  1. Gas Mizer

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    I went to the O'Reilly's and they gave numbers for both the cartridge replacement and a spin on. I thought that was strange, so I went with the cartridge replacement. Low and behold, after getting all pumped up to do the car's first change, I remove the panel and it's a spin on filter. :mad: Back to parts house!

    One question though... Where is a good jack point? They have the whole under-carriage covered. Do we have to do both sides individually now?
     
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    The jacking points are shown under “Positioning a floor jack” on page 603 of the Owner’s Manual (PDF).
     
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    spin-on oil filter now? I think that is good news. I sometimes see the dealer mechanic struggling to get that cartridge filter off. And I wonder if they even change it. Maybe I need to switch dealers.
     
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    Mine is spin on part number: 90915-10003

    I think from investigating there are other part numbers that supersede this one; 90915-YZZF2, I believe but will check with the dealer's parts dept.
     
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    Yep, I had the same thing happen to me. I was apparently the first at the local Toyota dealer to do a DIY oil change on the 2017, since the parts person was very confused. Oddly enough, my wife's 2017 Prius has the replaceable cartridge, and mine has the spin on. Hers is about 6 months older.
     
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    When I positioned a floor jack on that very spot from the manual during my transaxle fluid change it seems to have dented the metal inwards. There are now indentions that match my floor jack.

    They switched to spin on half way through 2017 model year. My 2017 uses cartridge. I kind of like the cartridge better because I can easily look inside it and I can easily inspect the filter material. With a 64mm 14 face socket (27mm socket or 1/2in drive) that I bought from Walmart for 4 dollars(!) I can easily remove my cartridge.
     
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    Did you ever find out if the -YZZF2 suffix filter is the same as the -10003 suffix one? I'm thinking of buying it for my first service. Although maintenance is included for the first 25k miles, I'm not sure I trust the dealer to do it right. They tend to get these untrained monkeys with impact wrenches to do oil changes...
     
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    I’ll call parts department in morning and post reply. Several websites that sell Toyota parts cross reference the 10003 with yzzf2.

    I am with you on the dealership oil changes, will probably be doing my own maintenance even for first 24K miles, for reasons you mentioned.
     
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    Yeah there's always a front-central and rear-central jacking point, good to know. I wonder if the 4th gen scissor jack locations, which some people use for safety stands, are as flimsy/skittish as 3rd gen. With 3rd gen I found alternative strong points, be interesting to see the 4th gen options.

    Found this image of 4th gen underbody, not sure how accurate it is. I've highlighted in yellow what I think are possible safety stand locations. The front passenger side location seems to be obscured, hopefully not the case.

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    Yes spin on oil filter for some 2017/2018 Prius is 90915-YZZF2, this is the US part number that supersedes the Japanese factory filter part number 90915-10003, this info from my dealer's parts dept today.
     
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    The "spin-on" filter is more convenient, less likely to get screwed up, but I'm a little disappointed Toyota threw in the towel on this: the permanent housing and paper filter style was better for the environment: no metal housing, just a paper element, easier to recycle.

    OTOH, the permanent housing has it's shortcomings:

    1. It's possible to reassemble without a filter inside. There's been one case reported here, dealership maintenance neglect.

    2. The O-ring is trouble prone, can be mis-located, maybe even shift during install.

    3. The plastic housing is somewhat fragile, subject to damage during removal, especially if it was previously overtorqued. Again, often down to dealership maintenance.

    All of that could be remedied I think, with a more solid metal housing, with a more definitive O-ring groove, and designed in such a way that it could NOT be installed without a filter inside.
     
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    I remember my 240D and 300D and I hated the oil changes in my back yard. What a mess. I bet a lot of filters never get changed. That is why I try to go to at least 4 different dealers in the life of a car and if possible watch the oil change.
     
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    Side note: any news on the 2019 and 2020's as to significant changes other than body stuff?
     
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    Mendel, Please tell me I'm not driving around with a flimsy plastic oil filter??! :eek:
    (But there are 1.9 million Prii on US roads, so they must be doing something right.)
     
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    There should be a place on the frame left and right side. Be sure to use jack stands before going under.


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    The only problem I've ever seen with a spin-on filter is that some of them can be double gasketed. Other than that, I'd take a spin-on any day.
     
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    Is there any way to tell if the car has one or the other without crawling underneath? VIN number? Date of Manufacture?
     
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    Usually, the parts catalog would show either a VIN or Build date break. If it was a running change, you'd have to look.
     
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