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2023 - Prius or Prime - spare tire?

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by Mark Monroe, Jan 3, 2023.

  1. Nntw

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    Maybe this has already been found....

    This youtuber claims that a Prius V spare and tool kit fit well once you yank out the foam. At least for a FWD model.



    Don't think it would be viable for an AWD car- as i understand it cables in the way- and didn't THINK it would work for a Prime either.

    Haven't really validated his claims- just thought I'd pass on the link for those who might be interested.
     
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    I think the OD would be a bust:

    From Prius v Owner's Manual, spare size is: T135/70D17 102M (24.4" OD)*
    From 2023 Prius Owner's Manual, spare tire size is: T145/90D16 106M (26.3" OD)

    OD's determined by: Tire Size Calculator

    Still, it could be done. Simplest would be to wait till the 2023 Prius shows up on parts.Toyota site, and hopefully they provide info/availability for the rim and tool kit. Then get the tire (spec'd in Owner's Manual), through TireRack or whoever.

    Me, I'll look for a car that comes with a spare.
     
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    So the air compressor that comes with the tire repair kit cannot be used as regular air compressor to pump air in the tire? It can only be used to pump the goo to repair the tire? If that’s the case can anyone suggest a portable air compressor that will fit nicely in the foam?
     
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    The pump can be used without the goop bottle.
     
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    Thanks! I must have misread a comment on here. That’s why I asked. But that’s good to know.
     
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    I thought you needed at least an empty goop bottle from old threads on the issue. Does someone make an adaptor to connect to the tire valve? For example: Air compressor without fix-a-flat? | PriusChat
     
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    It’s not just ev’s. Lot of car makers happy to find reasons not to include spares. Saves weight, saves costs… and potentially makes the consumer’s life more complicated.
     
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    The hose connection is exactly the same as the goop bottle connection. I checked it earlier and I was able connect the hose directly to the pump.
     
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    My LE did not include a spare. It did include 2 years roadside assistance. So I’m not going to worry about it until then. What did bother me was it didn’t come with floor mats. The dealership promised to get me some but I’ll believe it when I see it.
     
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    I just checked mine. It wasn't true in 2017 for my Prime.

    I'm glad they wised up, I have to carry a small compressor I bought from Amazon. I will be sure to check the 2023 if I manage to get one.
     
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    For regular use, I'd have little faith in the repair pump as a stand alone compressor. Like the factory supply jack, it is something the manufacturer expects to see very little use, and sources accordingly.
     
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    Just score a decent floor-style bicycle pump.
     
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    The Ryobi inflator works great. I’ve even mounted motorcycle tires with it. It’s cheap especially if you already have other Ryobi 18v tools and a charger.
     
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    Got some info, but take some of it with a grain of salt(I'll explain below).

    First, the sure thing: The OEM spare tire is 42611-21280. MSRP is $102.13 USD. It also was the spare for the Lexus UX 200 and UX 200h. It takes a T145/90D16. Those seem to run about $110 on TireRack.

    Now for the salt grain. I had the parts guy at my dealership look into the deck floor boxes for the spare tire configuration. He started by using my VIN(Limited AWD) and the picture that showed up was for the boxes for the spare. Now that doesn't make sense because there's no way I'm the only guy in the country that's getting a Prius set up for a spare. So either Toyota has the wrong part for my VIN, or Toyota has the wrong picture for the part. Until autoparts.toyota.com is completely updated with the 23Prius, I don't think we'll know for certain. In any case, I'll give you what I've got so we have a price starting point.

    64995-47110 - Box, Deck Floor (right) - MSRP of $264.85
    64997-47130 - Box, Deck Floor (left) - MSRP of $283.01

    I've normally been able to find genuine OEM parts from Toyota dealerships for about 33% off, so I figure the pair would cost around $370. Note that there is a very good possibility that these are actually the standard tray boxes for the XLE and Limited, so the real spare tire tray boxes might be significantly cheaper(since they're much smaller).

    ...

    I did a bit more digging through another system and found the possible part numbers. The problem is that there are five sets of them, and we don't know which is which for now. But a safe guess is that one of the cheapest in each group are the ones for the spare tire. It also more or less confirms the part numbers above are actually for the XLE/Limited boxes(it's logical they'd be the most expensive since they're the largest).

    Left
    64997-47050 $197.91
    64997-47100 $121.05
    64997-47120 $189.23
    64997-47130 $283.01
    64997-47140 $268.96

    Right
    64995-47080 $197.07
    64995-47100 $168.57
    64995-47110 $264.85
    64995-47120 $125.19
    64995-47130 $111.97

    If you put a gun to my head at this point, I would guess the correct parts would be:

    Left:
    64997-47100 $121.05

    Right:
    64995-47120 $125.19
    or
    64995-47100 $168.57

    So I figure the total cost to add a spare the OEM way would be around $400-450 all in.
     
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    In lieu of something that requires a rechargeable battery I would look at a portable pump that runs on 12v via cig adapter, or battery terminals.. Save it for emergencies only, do your regular pressure checks at the gas station if you don't have a compressor at home.
     
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    Floor-standing bicycle pump (muscle powered) works too. I’ve re-aired a 195/65R15 after a plug repair, when it had maybe 10 psi at most. Worst case scenario, and even that only took about 10 minutes. For tire top up, 20~40 strokes is the usual.
     
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    The hold down bolt for the spare is supposed to be 51931-10040($17.18 MSRP), but Toyota doesn't have any available(yet?). I assume the lack of availability is because it's new for the gen5. The spare wheel is available now because it's being reused from previous models. I didn't ask about availability of the different tray boxes because I'm not going to order until I know for certain which is which.
     
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    What model is the previous model spare wheel from? The previous Prius models except for the Prius v have a smaller bolt pattern.
     
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