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2023 Prius Reviews

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by Danny, Dec 14, 2022.

  1. Danny

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    Wow! Already? ;)
     
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    eek, the clubs that fit in gen4 won't fit in gen 5? that's regression.

    that was a nice comparison of the rear view, gen 5 looks better. interesting how the hatch glass appears to go higher on gen 5.
     
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    Some screen shots. :)

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    :ROFLMAO:
     
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    beauty is in the eye of the beholder
     
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    The Edmunds review officially lost me when he mentioned the gen 5 suspension upgrades and then proceeded to say with a straight face that with the last generation “whenever you would go over some kind of bump in the road it felt like the car would shake and it was going to fall apart

    That’s some over dramatic BS if I’ve ever heard it. And the only price I believe he quoted was for the Limited edition. No mention of the LE being about 10k less.
     
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    Fwiw, just about every media review is 99.999999% pure BS, with barely any hint of truth.


    As for me, I'm going to buy the highly rated, by Edmunds, 2016 Prius. :)
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    2016 Toyota Prius Review
    
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    notably quieter and better-riding than past iterations
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    Edmunds says
    Look no further than the 2016 Toyota Prius if fuel economy is what you're after. But you'll also enjoy more sophisticated ride and handling qualities and a quieter powertrain.
    

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    Look no further than the 2016 Toyota Prius if fuel economy is what you're after. But you'll also enjoy more sophisticated ride and handling qualities and a quieter powertrain. Going green with a Prius has never been better.
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    Outstanding fuel economy
    notably quieter and better-riding than past iterations
    generous cargo space
    significantly improved driving position.
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    As for the car's underlying architecture, a lower and wider stance combines with the new double-wishbone rear suspension to improve the car's ride and handling. Bumps are now more readily absorbed, and the steering's added heft is reassuring. This new Prius is still not speedy or all that exciting to drive, but there are far fewer failings to overlook. It's a pleasant car to drive in its own right.

    With these refinements, the Prius also has fewer peers than ever before. Honda has shelved its slow-selling Insight, and no other automaker is attempting a Prius rival. At this point it's a matter of size, mpg, configuration and, yes, styling. Is the 2016 Prius hatchback big enough, or do you want the extra passenger space of a midsize sedan that has a trunk? If so, the 2016 Ford Fusion Hybrid or the 2016 Toyota Camry Hybrid might be worth a look. If a plug-in hybrid is more to your liking, the redesigned Chevrolet Volt is pretty impressive. But for a regular hybrid, we highly recommend the 2016 Toyota Prius.
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    o_O o_O

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    My biggest complaint about the new Prius. The Prime version should be standard and it should be able to get 50 miles on all battery. In the winter months that would mean 30-35 miles of electric in cold climates. I think AWD should be standard as well. Honestly with BEV vehicles. The Prius Prime should be the base trimline on the new Prius. Other than that, it looks good.
     
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    We did have a Volt available for a bit.

    AWD reduces efficiency, and thus EV range. The electric versions are better than mechanical, but they still have an impact measurable in EPA testing.
     
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    Sorry to bust your bubble but if you get the Prime XSE or XSE premium you're only going to get 32 miles on battery power, if that. But I bet in cold winter areas that number drops to below 30 miles, say from November to March.

    Sadly it appears that the Prime mid to upper trim levels will get no where near 38 miles on battery power. Still like the looks of the 2023 model but when you factor in

    Only 28 to 32 miles on battery power (depending on time of year)
    No spare tire
    Low ceiling/head clearance issues
    Above average noise level
    Poor rear view (mirror) viewing
    Odd tire size
    etc.

    The exterior hype starts to fade along with buyer interest. Hybrid is big improvement over previous year models, but doesn't seem to match up well with 2023 competition.
     
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    people get 40 now, i don't think 50 is unreasonable
     
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    Jesus, aren't you a negative nelly?

    Have you ever driven a plug-in vehicle? Here's my Prime with a lowly 25 miles of range. By your logic, this should be IMPOSSIBLE :rolleyes:.

    I squeeze almost 40 miles out of a "25 mile certified" vehicle.

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    Pretty sure if I had a Prime XSE, I'll be able to get closer to 50 miles in the spring/fall.

    You're right though. It won't get 38 miles in the winter. Most likely, it'll be 25-30 miles but how's that different from a gas car that gets better mpg in the summer and worse in the winter? My 2010 got 550 miles of range in the summer and 400 miles in the winter.
     
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    Just saying that the "pumped 38 miles per battery charge" is a moving target/number. And mostly a moving "down number". as you add more weight to Prime, drive upper trim models and drive in cold weather.

    Saying 38 miles on battery charge but then getting 30% less driving year round, is a big difference to me. Of course I'm not talking the base trim level which I now think is the best of the three trims. So long leather seats.
     
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    Of course. It was never mentioned that was the exact number. It said "up to 50% more" and frankly on the base SE, it was more than 50% over the Gen 4 Prime.

    As with any car, adding more weight reduces efficiency, acceleration, worsens braking distance etc. Adding a larger engine reduces range even further but people were fine going with the V6 option over the 4 cylinder or the V8 over the V6.

    It's just that with more highly tuned efficient cars like the Prius (and EVs), these changes are amplified.

    I went from the stock 20" cast alloys to 19" flow-formed alloys and even on winter tyres, my efficiency soared because of the significantly lower unsprung weight (15 lbs per corner, 60 lbs total unsprung weight loss). My range went from 312 miles to 362 miles just by changing the wheel size and losing weight (despite having winter tyres).
     
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    Ther reviews seem favorable. I wonder if the websites will rank the new Prius above other hybrids like the Hyundai Sonata/Elantra, Honda accord/insign hybrids, perhaps Corolla/Camry hybrids as well. I have always been a little puzzled why those other hybrids were getting better reviews than the Prius tho..
     
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    both of these are very welcome!
     
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    I wonder if Toyota cherry-picks reviewers.
     
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    Without delving into examples, my guess is the Prius uniqueness works against it with most reviewers. Relative newness could also be a factor.

    I'm sure they all do for the initial wave. These release events are invite only.
     
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