2023 Prius Reviews

There're many times, a ton of variables to put together when trying to explain exactly how and when the Prius and even more so the prime will behave one way or another, which often get left out or forgotten in a posts description.
I leave stuff out too, it's frustrating, and i'm still learning new stuff about how the Prime behaves 6 years in. One example, I've still, never really used EV Auto enough to have a clue about how it's programming is setup.

And I do agree 100% with what @Trollbait posted above. That without a long enough and / or steep enough hill or mountain to drive down, the Prime and PiP give the appearance they will not charge up out of the PHEV's hybrid reserved portion of the traction pack on their own. Where as on a longer decent the driver doesn't need to switch modes to get enough regen into the pack for the car to start working in EV mode again. Does that sound right to you @bisco ? It's been a while since I've been behind the wheel of a PiP.

 

Yes, that sounds right. But I have never driven down enough small hills to know if it uses all the regeneration, or if there simply isn’t enough

 

The trouble I've noticed when out of EV miles is the amount of regen needed to get back into the EV usable space, a minimum 1% EV which is about 4/10ths of a mile EV (in my Prime at 25 miles EV estimate after fully charged, for me currently), last time I looked. And the car uses regened voltage pretty quickly, (even faster it seems to me) than the same amount of charge acquired from the plug.
Those regen observations to me makes it seem even harder to get back into the usable EV range. especially on multiple smaller mounds (can hardly even call um hills) like the ones around here, after running out of EV range all together.

I've seen voltages shown in DrPrius while in HV mode with no EV miles available as low as 322 volts when really testing just how low it will go. The voltages bounce around a lot down that low, with voltage rebound and stuff like that. i think it's mostly the nature of how Toyota programmed those limits. EV range (for me) cuts out at 330 volts consistently with the lowest I've seen ( 325 volts that rebounds to 330 volts as soon as the load is removed.
edit And I was always under 15mph in EV mode to capture voltages that close together, at faster speeds the EV cut off voltage seems higher and is harder to spot, /edit

Seeing that sfuff in the car reinforces the stuff others have learned when reconditioning packs.

 

i've never gotten back into ev, but we're flatlanders around here.

 

Another new upbeat review on the Prime…

 

if i had to park in the sun, that would be great, but i always seek shade.

did he say he got 2-4 miles of solar charge, then later say if you're someone who parks outside all day, that's 5-6 miles you can drive home with?

 

What an exciting review! Thanks for posting!

Really jelly of that Prime with solar, but $42k... Need a Canadian connection. Those lucky dogs!

 

I got a kick out of his snicker after he gassed it at 13min 25sec. Kinda says it all for me.

 

Super car owner blown away by the new Prius. "Would absolutely own this car." Said outside of the Crown, this is the quietest Toyota.

 

Another glowing review

 

Consumer reports,He he says cargo space is smaller! And a lot of the other things paid reviewer’s have mentioned! I still don’t see a lot of real owner YouTube reviews?

 

yes, the cargo space and back seat. thoroughly covered here. i haven't seen an owner review either.

the problem, as i see it, is that these reviewers are all gear heads. they love the bew styling, the power and the electronics (but are clueless as to toyotas poor electronics history)
the functionality of the car means nothing to them, and of course, they still won't own one themselves.

 

Thomas finally got his hands on PHEV variant in Europe.

 

Ha, I wouldn't expect from Toyota a quality-control issue like an off-centered steering wheel! That is awful for a brand-new car!

Perhaps I should wait for the 2024 model year until they fix these quality-control issues.

 

I like how so many reviewers pose for the Prius

 

Meh. This was obviously from a Toyota press event. Those cars are transported all over the place and get put through the ringer by the reviewers. I'm more likely to believe a reviewer knocked the alignment out, or Toyota had to have it realigned between events and the alignment shop misaligned the wheel because it was done in a hurry.

The counter argument would be that wouldn't Toyota be certain that a car on a press tour be maintained perfectly? But if those cars are bouncing around Europe with a few press events a week and a dozen reviewers driving each car at each event, it's easy to think that a car could get lightly damaged and they not catch it right away.

 

Considering the slow rate of production I’m wondering if there will be any changes to 2024 model.

 

I don't really see changes made for 2024, they pretty much already set quotes in some regions for 2024.