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2500 RAM diesel suit

Discussion in 'Diesels' started by bwilson4web, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Source: Lawsuit Alleges Ram Cummins Diesel Trucks Are Cheating On Emissions [Updated]

    Automotive law firm Hagens Berman has filed a class-action lawsuit against Ram Trucks parent company Fiat Chrysler and its diesel engine supplier Cummins, alleging that the companies collaborated to fraudulently under-report how much pollution heavy-duty pickup trucks were producing.
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    Today’s heavy-duty Ram trucks have run the same cast-iron, 6.7-liter six-cylinder Cummins diesel engine option since 2007. The engine has an excellent reputation for reliability and performance among enthusiasts, but produces illegally high emissions according to the lawsuit.
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    Hagens Berman goes on to detail that legal limit for NOx emissions, the poisonous nitrogen oxides emitted by combustion engines, is 200 mg/mile “for stop and go driving.” In a press release, the firm claims Cummins-powered Ram 2500 trucks emitted 702 mg/mile under such conditions “on average, and 2,826 mg/mile at maximum emissions.” Similar results were apparently recorded under highway conditions, and neither prompted any engine fault codes that might indicate incorrect operation.    ​

    Cleaning up diesel is apparently a hard problem and 'shark bait.' The comments in the article include the obligatory rolling coal diversion.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #1 bwilson4web, Nov 15, 2016
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    The lawsuit only tested one truck; a 2012 model. All that shows is that the on road test they did gets worse emissions than the official one the truck was certified too. It sites the W.Va University study that caught VW, but that group ran the cars in the lab through the EPA tests in addition to on road testing.

    Then the federal warranty requirement for emissions is more lenient on these heavy duty trucks than personal passenger vehicles; only 5yrs or 50k miles. This truck could easily be outside the warranty period if actually used for work. It could also have aftermarket defeat devices for all we know.

    I think the lawyers will still get a settlement though, because Cummins and FCA don't want to go to a jury trial at this point in time.
     
    #2 Trollbait, Nov 15, 2016
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    Another key difference is that most ram owners could probably care less about emissions.
     
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    just another step from clean diesel to no diesel.
     
    #4 bisco, Nov 15, 2016
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