$50 a day for gas?

My friend who is a gear head says the H2 is built on a Chevy Silverado chassis. He also said the chassis for the H3 is built on the Chevy Colorado Small pick up. I would buy a real HMMR before I would drive a sham like the new hummers. There much more expensive and better at carrying people in rough terrain.

I like the visual of the Hummer parked in front of the mediocre houses. Reminds me of the saying I once heard, We must live within our means, even if that means borrowing to do so.

 

Save The Hummers was brilliant!!!!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ozyran @ May 10 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]439417[/snapback]</div>

I'd like to put it on the rear hatch of my car for everyone to see. But then I'd be certain to get rear ended by someone.

Dave M.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ichabod @ May 10 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]439395[/snapback]</div>

Thank you for the graphic. We think it is very funny. I used it on 3 calendars I took to the office. I am sorry to say that the "Save the Hungry Hummer Fund" is not doing well. The donations are going to feed starving kittens.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dmckinstry @ May 11 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]439953[/snapback]</div>

You mean one of the locals driving an oversized pavement pounder like these?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(rudiger @ May 10 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]439493[/snapback]</div>

I went to a mountain hiking lodge. They used normal, large SUVs to haul 8 or 9 people over the most dreadful abandoned and un-maintained logging roads you can imagine, to get us to the trailheads. I don't believe a Hummer would do as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ May 11 2007, 10:52 AM) [snapback]440072[/snapback]</div>

My new car goes 50 miles for one dollar's worth of electrons.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KD6HDX @ May 11 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]439902[/snapback]</div>

Your friend is correct. Underneath, the two Hummer models still in production are based entirely on GM's light-duty truck lines.

The 'mid-size' H3 is really nothing more than what used to be called the Chevrolet Blazer (which was based on the compact S-10 pickup). Currently, there is no Chevrolet/GMC equivalent (the similiarly-sized Chevrolet Trailblazer rides on a unique chassis with different drivetrains). This is why I was always confused when looking at H3s and their 5-cylinder engines. I'd look at Trailblazers and couldn't figure out why they had different engines. Yet, the Colorado had the same engine as the H3.

Aside from all the other impractical reasons, to give an idea of how idiotic it is to buy an H3, consider that the base MSRP for an equivalent Colorado 4WD 4-door is $23,810. The base MSRP for an H3 is $29, 405, nearly $5,600 more for the same-size vehicle with the same drivetrain. That's a big chunk of change just to get a carpeted, enclosed pickup bed and the Hummer name, particularly considering that Chevrolets are discounted much more heavily than Hummers. The bottom line is that H3s are nothing more than really expensive Colorado pickups, meaning they're high-profit products for GM.

It's easy to figure out what the H2 is based on. The full-size SUV Tahoe/Suburban variants are also based upon the full-size GM pickup chassis and, therefore, have the same drivetrains as the H2.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ May 12 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]440571[/snapback]</div>

A Hummer would do better because of the increased ground clearance and aforementioned reduced front overhang. As to how much better, well...

The problem is Hummers are so much more expensive and difficult to get than normal, large SUVs that the extra capability isn't worth the extra cost. They don't make a base, 'work-truck' level Hummer even remotely within the price range of a base domestic full-size SUV. As stated, normal, readily-available, large SUVs with minimal extra comfort equipment get the job done in most circumstances.

 

The vehicles used at the hiking lodge were very comfortable. They had to be for the long rides to the trailheads (sometimes as much as 2 hours each way). Hummers look wider to me. Maybe that's just an illusion. But some of these logging roads were so narrow that a wider vehicle would be a disadvantage.

I didn't like the long rides, though, and I've switched to going to wilderness lodges, where the hiking trails all start right at the lodge.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FloridaWen @ May 10 2007, 01:53 PM) [snapback]439335[/snapback]</div>

I do. I seem to remember the 1st one was in 1974-1975 when gas doubled from 29.9c/gallon to 59.9c/gallon. The 2nd one was 1980. When gas went over $1/gallon the pumps couldn't handle it. ARCO configured their pumps for liters but still advertized price per gallon. I wasn't driving during the 1st one but I had a 1964 Dodge Polara (class) with broken fuel gauge during the 2nd one. This was my first car.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daniel @ May 12 2007, 10:49 PM) [snapback]440823[/snapback]</div>

They're wider:

• Hummer H1: 86.5"
• Chevrolet Tahoe: 79.0"
• Ford Expedition: 78.7"

A good way to look at the practical application of an H1 is they're more akin to a large, street-legal ATV than an SUV. But then, I never quite saw the practical use for an ATV, either.

H1s approach the usefulness of something along the lines of a UniMoG, which is essentially a street-legal, 4-wheel, tilt-cab tractor designed for use in third-world countries:

Unimog 435 / U1300L Troop Carrier


Here are some details for this particular vehicle:

Ex-German Bundeswehr
Built in 1980.
36'000 km (22'500 mi).
New 'Fire Truck Red' paint, RAL3000.
NATO MIL tires 95%, with spare.
Front bolt.
Driver's Instruction Book in English.


Standard Specifications -

3.25m (128") wheelbase.
1.86m (73") track width.
Overall 5.59m L, 2.33m W, 2.83m H (220" L, 92" W, 111" H).
Cargo bed 3.15m L, 2.20m W, 0.50m H (124" L, 87" W, 20" H).
Curb weight 5,250 kg (11,600 lbs).
GVW 7,500 kg (16,500 lbs).
Fuel economy 17.5 liters per 100 km (13.5 mpg). (About the same as a Hummer H1)
Fuel capacity 160 liters (42.25 gal).
Cruising range on highway 900 km (560 mi).
Oil consumption, 1% of fuel.
Direct injection OM-352 diesel engine.
6 cylinder, 5.675 liter (346 ci), 7 bearings.
Power output 130 hp at 2,800 rpm.
8 speeds forward, 4 reverse, all syncro transmission.
Push button center differential lock, 2 wheel to 4 wheel drive.
Push button differential locks, front and back axles.
Portal axles with 0.44m (17") ground clearance.
Coil spring suspension.
Up to 20° torsional twisting.
Power steering.
11x20 rims with 12.5x20 NATO MIL tires.
Air assisted disk brakes.
Air compressor.
Raised air intake.
Forward tilting cab, seating for 2 - 3 persons.
Removable hood and front grill.
24 Volt electrical system.
Rear pintle connector.
Roof hatch.
Seat belts.
No PTO, no hydraulics.