$ 620.00 Inverter fluid change

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  1. mski

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    new here got a question, my Prius has 80,000 miles, dealer said I need the coolant changed in my engine and inverter.
    Cost $620.00 I'm a mechanic and that sounds ridiculous .
    My daughter took the car in and made the appointment at a different dealer .
    Hows that sound too much
    Mark
     
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    that is crazy expensive. There is a guy on here selling a gallon of OEM SLLC for $10. You'll need 3 gallons. any mechanic can do it
     
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    Not only a rip-off, but unnecessary. Wait until 100,000 miles at least.
     
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    That's steep. That aside, the Toyota USA warranty and maintenance booklet says:

    Engine coolant change: 100k miles or 10 years, 50k miles or 5 years thereafter.

    Inverter coolant change: 150k miles or 15 years, 50k miles or 5 years thereafter.

    I can post a table format summary of the schedule tomorrow: much easier to follow than the event-by-event format in the Toyota booklet.
     
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    One edition of Toyota’s Flat Rate Manual allows 0.6 and 0.8 labor hours for changing the engine and inverter coolant, respectively (operation numbers 002019 and 002049) on third-generation Prius cars (ZVW30 series).

    The list price for a gallon of pink coolant (00272-SLLC2) is $20.24, and as @JC91006 kindly mentioned, the job requires about two and a half gallons (7.2 L for the engine and 2.1 L for the inverter). If you’re doing it by the book (more info), you also need a new gasket for the coolant drain plug on the bottom of the hybrid transaxle, part number 90430-18008, list price $1.90.
     
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    Thanks everyone, just as I suspected.
    I know the book says 100,000 / 150000 but wanted to check , maybe some other reason.
    They probably saw 2 young girls they could take advantage of.
    Don't like getting dirty after work but for that i guess I will.
    Thanks again to all.
     
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    @NutzAboutBolts has videos on both coolant changes. Even if you're not considering DIY, worth a watch, to get a feel for the scope of work. There's links in a thread pinned at top of 3rd gen maintenance forum. Attached is some repair manual info:
     
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    If you’re a mechanic, how did the maintenance cost surprise you and how come your not doing the work yourself :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I did both coolant / inverter this weekend and pulled the throttle body off so a bit of fluid came out and I did the best I could squeezing the hoses to get out more fluid. The car was up on 2 front wheels and with drains open I lowered the car down on the wheels while it drained. I paid about $50 for 2 gallons of Toyota fluid with tax at a dealer. I have fluid left over so you are covered with 2 gallons. I 'think' I was quoted somewhere around $250 for each fluid change, there was no discount offered on getting both done at once. Los Angeles, Ca prices.
     
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    I'm NOT a mechanic and that sounds ridiculous.

    Advice:
    1. Stay away from Toyota dealerships....especially THAT dealership.

    2. Coolant changes for a 6-year-old California car are a YMMV thing.
    Me?
    I wouldn't do it now.....
    You fix cars for a living and I fix phones, so I'm not going to virtue-signal you on the periodicity of this maintenance but the price is about 2x what I'd pay for inverter+radiator coolant changes. At least they didn't insult your intelligence by calling them a coolant "flush." ;)
     
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    The engine coolant change is particularly easy. You just remove a trim panel beneath the engine, open the drain valve — it’s a stopcock, needs no tools — and drain. Close the stopcock, replace the trim panel. Then you refill, warm the engine slightly while squeeIng a bit on the radiator hoses to bleed out any bubbles. That’s it.
     
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    I work on airplanes, also years ago I got new cars to quit getting dirty at home,
    The regular dealer I visit never pulled this crap , but they know me.
    For that price I'm getting dirty I guess.
    Thanks
     
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    There's a couple of openings in the underpanel, one just aft of the radiator spigot, that you can reach a hand in, and a smaller one directly below the tap. You can reach in and get it draining without underpanel removal. I think it helps to have the front slightly raised, clearance is tight.

    That said: the Repair Manual recommends to also drain the block, and to get to that location you probably do want to remove the underpanel. And have eyes on stalks, and arms 4 foot long: the block drain point on the rear side of the engine block, fairly high up, and near the passenger end of the engine. It's similar to the radiator drain, having a spigot you can push a tube onto. You "open" it by turning a small socket-head cap screw just above the spigot, takes a Allen key IIRC.

    And that said: I seem to recall those that have got to the engine block drain found very little came out.

    Another point you can drain: remove one of the coolant hoses on the exhaust coolant heating system, it was reported here some coolant can be drained there.
     
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    Thanks for the info, looks like fun ,
    guess I got a while before it needs it.
    I think cars nowdays are so reliable that the dealers are desperate to drum up work.
    Again thanks for all the support.
    Mark
     
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    I don’t see any reason for draining the block unless there’s been contamination with oil, or you’re removing the engine, etc.
    But just for maintenance? Not needed.
     
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    Well I'll give it a try, see how much comes out, at least once. With hondas over the years, about a couple of quarts came out of the block. That seems a reason: if the object is to replace the coolant, I think it best to remove as much of the old coolant as practical.

    Repair Manual recommends it, fwiw.
     
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    Not much comes out of the block anyway. If you live in an area that sees salt, the block plug can be dangerous to touch.
     
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    Can you recall roughly how much? Say a cup?
     
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    I need to raise my prices....
     
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    Honestly don’t remember, but it was very insignificant.



    iPhone ? Pro
     
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