A 5-seat Toyota Prius Prime is on the way

There maybe still be hope !
After all,I am pretty sure that the pictures and the test driven cars are and were pre-production models .
Somewhere here an interview with a toyota official stated the battery will be in the hatch and underneath the back seats,but these pictures clearly show that the battery is placed in the hatch only!

 

That Toyota official could have been referring to the additional battery that the solar option has.
Odds are at this point the first Prime to arrive will have 4 seats.

 

remember, toyota is reading every post. the more we complain, the more likely they are to find a better spot for the battery.

 

I highly doubt they'll make last minute battery relocation given that they've already spent millions developing the Prime. The best they can do is add it to the things to do for the next generation Prime.

 

More than 22 miles ev. (100 or better, or me no likey.)

100 miles or more of ev only, or no sale.

Anything less than 110 miles ev only and I'll buy a crappy Chevy Volt with a wimpy bowtie on the grill. I'll even wear one myself, that's how important extended ev miles are.

Hey Toyota, how about an option for an extended range Prime, say 110 miles ev or so?

How dumb is it to put a battery in a car that get's less than 25 miles when Tesla is working on one with 200+ and the Volt is on the roads now with 50+.



P.S. tell your service dept's to quit overtightening the oil filters. I broke all my filter removers and had to take it in to a shop to get the filter off.

 

Toyota doesn't read every post. They might glance at it once in a while and say yeah we monitor this forum.

 

Look around. The market is overwhelmed with guzzlers. Not understanding that the masses are far from ready for large batteries is a big mistake.

More is not better for the mainstream. It's great for many of us here, but we are far from representative of ordinary car buyers.

Less than 25 miles stands a chance of seriously competing directly, without subsides, against traditional vehicles at high-volume for a profit in this generation cycle.

Volt is out of the running for that and Tesla is many years away still.

 

tesla is not a phev.

 

CT6 phev is what many here complaining really want... larger battery-pack that's flattened, much more electric capacity, and seating for 5 adults.

The catch is, it will be extremely expensive... not in any way affordable to this audience.

 

it might be to some, but they likely won't buy it. complaining is so much more fun!

 

22 miles (35km) of Electric range would suit me great. And I'd guess that as a hybrid with a larger battery it should be able to utilise it to greater potential than a standard Prius if the PLUG IN facility isn't being used - like on a longer trip.

 

The battery cells are subdivided into stacks. Once the physical arrangement of those stacks is determined for the case, the ease of building the entire pack should be the same regardless of shape.

Building the case that is more than one rectangle cube will take more steps in forming one from metal, and it might use more material.

Properly cooling an irregular shaped pack by air will likely require using a more powerful fan or total number of fans, or be more clever in designing it for airflow.

And Lexus has a non-plug hybrid that starts at $120,000.
The expense of the CT6 lies in that it is Cadillac's flagship model. Not in it being a better packaged PHEV than the Prius Prime. It will likely be more affordable that that Lexus hybrid though.

 

How is that constructive? The word "start" is quite misleading. You know all too well there are other non-hybrid Lexus offer for a fraction of that.

For example, Lexus RX400h.

 

It would be something interesting say...If they produce a Prime that had 100 miles EV and a 4 gallon gas tank to go ~ 200 miles.

LoL - you'd fill up every few hours...Right now I have the joy of driving all day long without a fill-up charge.

I think the main thing people don't quite get is that the focus is on the Battery Tech and density as well as weight. If batteries can be more dense and lighter (doesn't matter if it's Lithium Ion or not...) then you could potentially see a 50 Mile Prime with an 12 gallon gas tank ....going 52 mpg still.

 

that sounds like the bmw i3 rex.

 

Which is really nice, but not in the affordable category.

 

correctamundo.

 

It was as constructive as your implying in the following post that for people to get what they expected out of the Prius Prime from Toyota would make the car too expensive by omitting that the CT6's much higher price revolves around it being Cadillac's flagship, top of the line car. The PHEV components are going to be nearly identical to the Volt's, and that will likely be about $4000 more than what the Prime will likely start at.

In other words, Toyota giving the Prius Prime 5 seats or cargo space comparable to the Prius will not turn it into a $60,000 plus Lexus.