a minor problem (I think)

Just take a look at two of the most recent topics he started. The similarity is unmistakable.

I'm afraid to drive my Prius

I took my Prius on the expressway for the first time since I got it 3 months ago

 

But take a look at this topic. It looks like the same thing...

http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=1...=0&#entry160726

 

Vehicles in park don't move. Unless they are broken or defective... or not in park..

There's no end to the problem toyota has if their car is moving more than a wiggle from tension front to tension back while in park. The tires most certainly are not going to actually move a rolling distance.

That's all talking about having push and pull play with is seperate from the car actually propelling itself in one direction or another. Why would forward or backward motion happen to a prius in P?

If you got pinned to the cement wall, or were down near the under front of the car when it did that and you got injured, they got big problems.

 

This was brought up in a thread about the Prius leapinging into a tow truck, It happened to me. The torque of the ICE starting (Oh, internal combustion engine to the person who asked) easily moves this wonderful little car. The amount you move is related to where the parking pawl is, but should not exceed 6 inches. What do I mean by torque. The transverse mounted engine (spins the same direction as the wheels turn) starts spinning at 600-700 rpm and the inertia causes movement. Why you don't notice this on conventional cars is the engine doesn't just start up on its own. Most people start their cars w/ their foot on the brake.

Since this was a legitimate issue (though I am skeptical of the actual collision with the wall) I would not classify this as a troll post. But then, I'm no expert.

 

Schmika,

Are we switching roles here? :lol:

You must put it in perspective of his posting history. The guy has priors (in California, those are admissible to prove intent). After all, he is the same poster who recently expressed his fear of merging into traffic, while driving his Prius on the expressway, and who also was scared to drive it on a cold day.

 

Maybe you have been a good influence :lol: B) :lol:

You know, I don't pay a lot of attention to originating posters. I probsably should, so I don't waste my breath. I'm still lookin' forward to that drink!

 

The parking pawl will allow inches, at most, of play. Feet of movement while in park indicates that something is broken. Take the car in for repair. Assuming you didn't make up the story.

Note that with the engine running or not, the Prius emulates an automatic transmission: taking your foot off the brake will cause it to creep forward. It's the computer saying: People are used to automatics and expect the car to creep forward, so let's pretend this is an automatic and creep forward. This can be prevented in the same three ways as in a conventional car: the foot brake, the parking brake, or putting the "transmission" in park. With the difference that in a conventional automatic the brake is fighting against the engine, while in the Prius, stepping on the brake tells the computer to stop emulating an automatic.

The Prius should never be left in neutral unless you want it to roll (e.g. in a car wash or being towed). Probably true of an automatic as well.

 

I started another post, not having seen this one about the same thing. I certainly didn't see it move feet, but it did move a few inches. Certainly enough where someone could get hurt if they were right up against a tire or something, although it's not something someone should be doing with it running anyway.

The odd thing is that you would think the ice engaging wouldn't cause anything to move, although maybe unlike a conventional car, there really is no Neutral - Park simple puts the parking prawl and tells the system not to engage, but the startup is a bit more of a kick for it.

For the record - I've seen it happen 2 times. Both on level terrain. The interesting thing is that in similiar situations where I've been sitting in park with my foot off the brake and no emergency brake on, it hasn't happened. I'm going to experement in my driveway and see if I can measure the difference..

 

I sure don't see any problem here.

I started mine up with just park holding the car on level ground. Car didn't move at all.

I also stopped car in park only, got out and pushed.
I could rock the car forward and back maybe 2 inches. Just like most cars with park holding the car. But one difference was this car pushes easier than any I've had before.

 

As I said in my post, I've seen it twice (actually, both times today!) and haven't seen it in many (nearly) identical situations previously.

I'm at 5500 miles on my 05 picked up Sept 1st.

 

dude i strongly suggest that you look at his post history. this is not the first person to call him a troll

 

You've already answered your own question, I hope. When stopped, at least one of the brakes (main or parking) should always be engaged. The parking pawl system is a failsafe and should not be relied on to keep any car completely motionless.

If you really were in park (and it's easy to stab at the "P" button but not really put into park) and if it really did move two feet (and we're people, not machines, so it's easy to misjudge a distance or to exaggerate our memories), then your car may need repair.

 

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ok, i guess im weird or something...but if anything remotely similiar to what you described had happened to me, i would be in a panic. since you dont seem to think its that bad, you must have already figured out what you did wrong.

my Prius also "lurches" when the ICE kicks on. however, it barely shakes the car. moving forward "nearly a foot" will only happen if in gear. as you know you may have the emergency brake on and be in drive. but you can not be in park and be in drive too. so the only way that what you described could happen in a normal vehicle would be that it was in drive.

i strongly suggest that you take the car in immediately before you kill someone. if what you describe is true, you have major safety issues

 

I agree. The poster sounds like a TROLL and a SCMUCK.