Air Ride Installed but need a shock kit

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    I installed struts with air bags built in on the rear of my 2005 prius. Only one problem, it bounces too much. If I put more air in them, then it is too stiff (it'll throw your head into the roof).

    Wondering if they make a kit to add shocks to the rear (and keep the air struts)....or, what idea's you may have to remedy this? I carry more weight than the regular struts can handle (not hard to overload this car), so I really need to keep the air ride.

    Thank you for your advice and opinions. Any ideas or welcome.
     
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    What kind of airbags did you put in? I didn't thing anybody sold them for 2004-2009.
     
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    I gotta see this in action....I would LOVE to slam my prius (altho I want air struts, not bags)
     
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    These are Air struts. And they were suppose to act like struts (shocks), but ....lol I guess because I am older (not that old)..hehe, I like a good ride, and these bounce a little to much for me.

    I got them installed at a local shop. They ordered them for me, and put them in. I just called them and asked where they bought them from, and he told me he got them at airbagit.com. They had to make them for the car. I did take pictures of them when they came in, so I uploaded those to this post. I also had them put a wireless remote air compressor, so I can air them up from inside the car. I have tried many air pressure settings, and it rides beautiful at around 45 psi, it just bounces to much after you hit a bump for my taste.
     

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    Pretty!

    Does the shop have any suggestions for dampening the bounce? I don't think it is possible without additional modification.
     
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    Thats why I would like to ADD regular shocks. I don't think it would be hard to do, was just wondering if anyone knew of a kit, or may have done a mod like this before.

    The goal is, keep the air struts installed, and install a "shock mounting kit", (or manufacture one from scratch), and mount a set of shocks to that. A strut is basically a shock anyway. And the new air struts seems to be more air bag instead of shock.

    I'm gonna try one or the other. I'll have an air strut and a shock on each side in the rear, so please throw some ideas, and/or advice my way. :D
     
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    UGC, That company claims they will provide 100% customer satisfaction on their website.

    They mostly likely can alter the damping in the struts by swapping a few inexpensive internal parts. It would be worth while asking them unless you are dead set on adding extra shocks.

    If you add shocks set up for a normal Prius, the new shocks plus your air struts combined might give more damping than you want.
     
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    how much were they if you don't mind me asking? and can you ask them if they'd be willing to fab up a COMPLETE set (front and back)? i am especially interested in the remote compressor
     
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    The airstruts were around $700. The wireless remote compressor is this one:http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/B001OMVCN2?tag=priuschatcom-20
    Needless to say, this setup isn't cheap.
     
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    You might want to consider asking the shop that did the initial work about the feasibility of installing shock relocators, so that you can have shocks on both sides. There are special precautions to take as far as disconnecting the HV system/inverter if they have to do any welding (likely).
     
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    Just an update, ..I took the car back to the shop. We shall see what they/me come up with as a fix.

    Plus, I am still open for ideas.
     
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    A gas shock reduces movement in both up and down directions, I'd suggest getting a new set of KYB shocks and a set of Tanabe or Eibach springs. Tanabe also make adjustable coilover shock kits for the prius.
    The Eibach springs will erase any weigh carrying problems.

    The air shocks are not going to work, an air bladder, cobbed on would be nice but so would wings.
     
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    Link?

    It seems like any off the shelf product that improves weight carrying capacity also results in lower ride height.
     
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    There is a company in SO-Cal called Universal Air Suspension. They make a "universal" bag that goes over a coilover setup. Theoretically you can install coil overs on a Prius and put these bags on them to get a fully adjustable air suspension.

    [​IMG]

    I have bagged several cars and while it is alot of fun to be able to lay your car on teh ground, the ride quality does suffer.

    Here is a pic of my hobby car. At full drop, the frame is 1/4 inch off the ground. I am able to drive it fully dropped on smooth roads.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I cannot wait to see photos of your slammed ride! I would love to do the same on [email protected]:rockon:
     
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    You say "coil overs", does the airbag shown just replace the original spring around the strut or would I have to buy something else?

    My airbag idea did not work. I am having to put the original struts back on. Couldn't get any help from the manufacture of the airstruts I bought, and could not take the bouncing up and down...lol.

    Thanks for your help. I do not know much about air ride systems. And using your idea of coil overs the ride should feel like the original struts right?
     
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    Nothing is going to ride exactly as stock. But yes those bags do just replace the coil spring on a coil over setup. Whats the size of the ones you already have and can you pose a pic? I have a buddy looking for something for the back of his 54 Chevy.

    If you only want to be able to carry a bigger load, then just get some air shocks, they are less than $100 and can support up to 1100lbs. And when you dont need them, just let the air out and its basically stock again.
     
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    Photo in the 3rd post of this thread. I will sell them if someone wants them. They cost me right at $700, so just make an offer of anything reasonable. They are air struts. They work, I just don't care for the ride compaired to the original struts.
     
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    I haven't been able to find anything in anyone's catalog that works for the rear. Can you post a link to something that would work?
     
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    When I needed air shocks for both my F150 and my 51 Chevy I just went to pepboys and found a shock with the correct ends and that was about the same length. You arent going to find a Prius specific air shock, but if you can find one that will bolt in, it will do 95% of a direct application.
     
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