1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Ambient temperature reading

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by MikeDee, Sep 6, 2022.

  1. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    It was over 100 F yesterday, but my temperature reading was only 88. It's always been off by a few degrees but this seems too much. Should I have the dealer take care of this (out of warranty), or is this just a matter of replacing the sensor which I could do myself? Does the vehicle depend this temperature reading or is it just for driver convenience?
     
  2. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    21,721
    11,319
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Has the sensor reported over 100 temperatures without problem before?
     
    Pulse07 likes this.
  3. lech auto air conditionin

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2011
    830
    601
    260
    Location:
    san francisco
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius c
    Model:
    Two

    It is a simple easy sensor to replace it’s just plugged into the end of a wiring harness behind your bumper grill area it’s a simple disconnect and reconnect the new one if needed
     
    MikeDee likes this.
  4. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Hmmm.. I don't know.

    Just went into garage and started the car. Temp in the garage was 85° and that's what the car showed. Maybe a momentary glitch or the sensor measures wrong at high temperatures?
     
    #4 MikeDee, Sep 6, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2022
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  5. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,676
    38,219
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Maybe the 100 degrees was off?
     
  6. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,705
    48,947
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    mine has always taken an hour or so to reach the reported temp outside
     
  7. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    21,721
    11,319
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    That's what I was thinking.
     
  8. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,105
    10,039
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Mine is quite slow to change and settle, but not anywhere near that long.

    And I don't go by internet or news reports of temperature, because large differences is very short distances are quite normal. A 5 degree difference between my front porch and back yard is not at all unusual.
     
    #8 fuzzy1, Sep 6, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2022
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  9. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,705
    48,947
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    we have 2 thermometers. they are always within a degree or two, and usually the same.

    the car readout is usually the same as those two. but if i leave the semi conditioned garage on a hot day, 30-45 minutes later, it can still read 10 degrees below the other two.
     
  10. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    My Gen 3 says 94F as I'm writing this when it's 108 according to the internet.


    iPhone ? Pro
     
    #10 MikeDee, Sep 6, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2022
    bisco likes this.
  11. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,105
    10,039
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I always have to wonder: how far away is that 'internet' thermometer? Feet, or miles? How different is that microclimate or microcell today compared to my location?

    Also, what is its elevation difference from me? With a dry air adiabatic lapse rate of 5.4°F/1000 feet (less for wet air), elevation changes can quickly add significant differences too.
     
    Doug McC and Trollbait like this.
  12. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    I have compared it to thermometers I have at the house, and they are within a couple of degrees.
     
  13. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    23,278
    15,078
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    The sensor is shaded behind the front bumper. Have you tried sticking one of the thermometers from the house in there next to the sensor, letting them sit for a while, then comparing the readings?
     
  14. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,105
    10,039
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Nearly always? Or just sometimes?

    My home thermometers can match the several different 'internet' thermometers near here too, 2 to 20+ miles away. But they can also be very different. Numerous weather cells have smaller dimensions than those distances, sometimes much smaller.
     
  15. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Right now the temps match, 74°. The internet sensor must be close. I'm using Apple weather. Guess it depends on where you live. It doesn't rain here for 6 months from about May to October.
     
  16. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,105
    10,039
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    From just a very few data points, I hope that you are not suggesting that the former implies the later.
     
  17. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Saw 91° before I got home, 91° on the home thermometer soon after. I think the sensor gets inaccurate at temps over 100°.
     
  18. Doug McC

    Doug McC Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2022
    951
    348
    0
    Location:
    Midwest
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius
    Model:
    XLE
    Or this is one more Prius Chat “the sky is falling” RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!! :). :). :)
     
  19. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    21,721
    11,319
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    In my general experience on a hot day, the sensor reads higher on start up. Sitting over hot pavement, the space where the sensor is tucked away gets hotter. Once moving, the display comes down as the hot air is flushed away.

    So your sensor could have been hotter that the reported temperature, which pushed it over its high limit. High temps could have also loosened a connection.
     
  20. MikeDee

    MikeDee Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2013
    1,535
    582
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Well, I've got two Priuses behaving the same way; i.e., temps over 100° give significantly lower readings on the car, as documented above.