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Are mountain descents of 4-5 minutes [getting 99+mpg] bad for the battery?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by ski.dive, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. zhenya

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    Engine braking will only slow your acceleration, not stop it.
     
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    One question that hasn't been raised in this string is why the OP is not invoking the B Mode when traveling down those long descents. In the old days, it was standard practice to downshift to a lower gear when going down a mountainside. B Mode is designed for that purpose. Or at least that is what the owner's manual states to do.
     
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    It does have some light engine braking, though much less than when in B mode. If you put it in N *** to disable that engine braking, you'll find the speed increasing faster.

    *** Don't do this if there is any chance the engine (ICE) is not already spinning. It defeats the car's ability to protect itself, possibly leading to overspeed damage or destruction of MG1.
     
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    In the case of the PIP Neutral means friction braking only - no regen, no engine braking. Is that different on other cars?

    (I use this mode all the time as I live at the top of a hill, so have to shift to N every morning to avoid firing the ICE when the battery is fully charged)
     
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    No, this should be true for all Prii.
    I believe the safe maximum speed for this, without destructively overspeeding MG1, is higher for the PIP than for the other models.
     
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    IMPORTANT: Also remember that before I go down that mountain at 80+mph with my foot off the gas and getting 99+mpg, I had to go up that steep mountain only getting 15-18mpg...LOL
     
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    Big mountains in VT makes me remember going down Killington years ago. Done that many times when I lived there long time ago but never in a Prius. Tricky not to overheat the brakes.
    Wicked steep mountain and all the roads to it.