Are You Upset About Recent UN Speeches?

Alnilam · Sep 23, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Walker1 @ Sep 22 2006, 05:57 PM) [snapback]323685[/snapback]</div>

Regardless of how I feel about Bush I think it's way out of line for anyone to come to our country and totally disrespect our President.[/b]
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For what it's worth, he didn't come to "our country." He went to the UN which is not a part of America but an international enclave. New York police have no jurisdiction there. So anybody bad-mouthing us there, as Chavez did, is no worse than if he said it in, for example, Canada, which is close to us but isn't us. Bush is on foreign soil when he goes there. He isn't President of the UN.

That's the price we pay for having the UN here.

NuShrike · Sep 23, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alnilam @ Sep 22 2006, 10:35 PM) [snapback]323789[/snapback]</div>

For what it's worth, he didn't come to "our country."[/b]
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Some, not Alnilam, didn't bother to RTFT.

IsrAmeriPrius · Sep 25, 2006

I highly recommend reading this column by Arianna Huffington:

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The fact is, disgust for that kind of harangue is not the province of either the right or the left. For me, it's just a lazy form of argument -- the rhetorical equivalent of a school yard taunt. It's a way of avoiding engaging in a real debate. And it is also utterly self-defeating. Chavez undermined whatever valid points he might have made about the U.S.'s tragic foreign policy mistakes, and also undercut his hopes of Venezuela gaining a seat on the UN Security Council. While the sulfurous smell of Chavez's odious diatribe still hung in the air, the likelihood of Guatemala gaining that spot instead increased dramatically.

But, as a lover of irony, I can't help but notice how conveniently myopic is the right wing's outrage about over-the-top rhetoric-- and how selective its memory.

I don't remember the right foaming at the collective mouth when Pat Robertson suggested on a broadcast of the 700 Club last August that Chavez should be assassinated, saying "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability."

And I don't remember the right calling for blood in February of this year when Don Rumsfeld likened Chavez to Adolf Hitler.

And, aside from a few dissenting voices raised in defense of the 9/11 widows, I don't remember the right condemning Ann Coulter for her constant output of hyperbolic vitriol and over-the-top invective -- including her assertion that Democrats like Jack Murtha "long to see U.S. troops shot, humiliated, and driven from the field of battle" or her claim that "conventions of civilized behavior, personal hygiene, and grooming" are "inapplicable when Muslims are involved."

Selective High Dudgeon: Conservatives Fume About Chavez... But Not His Fellow Verbal Bomb Throwers on the Right[/b]
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And let's not forget Jerry Falwell's latest:

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"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate," Falwell said, according to the recording. "She has $300 million so far. But I hope she's the candidate. Because nothing will energize my [constituency] like Hillary Clinton."

Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."

At that moment in the recording, Falwell's voice is drowned out by hoots of approval. But two in attendance, including a Falwell staff member, confirmed that Falwell said that even Lucifer, the fallen angel synonymous with Satan in Christian theology, would not mobilize his followers as much as the New York senator and former first lady would.

"He was calling Hillary Clinton a demonic figure and openly arguing that God is a Republican," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of the advocacy group Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Los Angeles Times - Falwell Says Faithful Fear Clinton More Than Devil[/b]
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efusco · Sep 25, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alnilam @ Sep 23 2006, 12:35 AM) [snapback]323789[/snapback]</div>

For what it's worth, he didn't come to "our country." He went to the UN which is not a part of America but an international enclave. New York police have no jurisdiction there. So anybody bad-mouthing us there, as Chavez did, is no worse than if he said it in, for example, Canada, which is close to us but isn't us. Bush is on foreign soil when he goes there. He isn't President of the UN.

That's the price we pay for having the UN here. [/b]
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You really should read the entire thread and have your facts before you Bob. He repeated his "devil" comments and actually expanded upon what he said in the UN later on while visit in Halem, NY--US soil, not international--Charley Randel's district in NY. He spoke for over an hour I believe it was, slamming Bush the entire time.

I shocked that no one lobbed any .38 rounds at him from an apartment window somewhere in the area.

JackDodge · Sep 28, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Sep 21 2006, 01:29 PM) [snapback]322900[/snapback]</div>

An American President was verbally abused and disrespected by the "President's" of Iran and Venezuela. Does this bother you? Do you think the leadership of the Democratic Party should have come out and said something?

I am curious as to why the NY Times and the WaPo buried this story which was one of the lead stories of yesterday's news cycles. In both papers they buried it on pages 16 and 18 respectively - why?
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I don't care what the chucklehead from Venezuela says. We should just laugh at him, not get offended. Like we care? C'mon.

dbermanmd · Sep 28, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Sep 28 2006, 02:40 PM) [snapback]325162[/snapback]</div>

I don't care what the chucklehead from Venezuela says. We should just laugh at him, not get offended. Like we care? C'mon.
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agree - love to see 7/11 drop them cold - as every American should - bypass every Citgo. Can't wait to see him start developing nukes too

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