ATF fluid changes ARE Required.

OK, then, as I plan to see if I can get 300,000 miles from this 2014 [ Elsie's first Prius-- a 2005-- was sold to a family friend,, it now has over 300,000 miles on it, no problems ] I will change mine early also. I guess I should suggest to her to get hers changed also. [ E.T.A.,, just advised Elsie to have hers changed, she said, ''OK'' ]

 

The problem I see here is that you need a stubby hex and not the long hex that you have to fit your breaker bar without the extension. I used the stubby hex and it works fine.

 

Home now, Elsie will get hers changed this week--- we are going on a week long ''motor trip'' to Colorado a few weeks into Sept., it will be time for my ''10,000 mile oil change'' from dealer upon return [ had first and paid for one at 2,050 ] and will pay for the ATF then. Sometimes,,, this stuff is cheap....

 

I hate to bring up an old argument, but here it goes. I am planning to change my fluid at the dealer for first time at 10k then I plan to do it myself at 30k, which will be less than a year from now. I have always been a fan of Mobil and Amsoil lubricants and I checked today at the local autoparts store and the Mobil says it is not compatible with the Toyota ws. I also checked Amsoil's website and they now have 2 fluids that are compatible with Toyota ws. That being said what do I have to gain using Amsoil for my second change over using Toyota ws? I trust Amsoil and I have easy access to it considering I drive within one block of one of their warehouses everyday (and I checked I can buy it there if I want to). I

 

Say what ?

 

I read this entire thread and people have been arguing over wich is the best, mobil, redline d4 or d6, Toyota ws, and amsoil. I don't have access to redline products where I live. I just want to know if people recommend amsoil now that it meets toyota ws standards.

 

Ah.

The peeps that use Amsoil recommend it.
On the other hand, those who use WS do not.

 

I wouldn't risk using anything other than Toyota ATF-WS.

 

I think you should do the research and make up your own mind. All Amsoil dealers are going to swear by their product. Toyota will always stand by theirs also. So you pick whatever you want and go forth. If your just looking for a healthy debate, try reading all the transaxle fluid change threads. There is plenty of advocates either way you go. Good luck!

 

Be safe than sorry, what happen to that? go with Toyota WS lol, or read the label on the product and see if its equivalent to the WS fluid.

 

Yeah, and see if they not only say it's compatible with Toyota ATF-WS, but back it up in writing. As in, will they buy you a transaxle if their fluid causes yours to fail?

SCH-I535

 

I'll be happy to provide that warranty*.


*All owner has to do is prove causation.

 

I'm surprised (or maybe not) that people can read this in the Owner's Manual:



And then the next question out of their mouths is: what alternatives can I use?

 

LOL

The even more curious thing is that the alternative is not cheaper and not superior. So where is the advantage ?
Choking on gnats but swallowing elephants comes to mind.

 

^ Yup. Well, more expensive equals better, right?

 

Saw that movie, with the kids, pretty much the night it opened. The audience basically exploded during that scene.

 

No but they tell the trainee technicians! I would want to know if non Toyota brands could guarantee no damage to the electric motors.

 

Bill, you really carry the torch for this subject. The way I look at it: if they tell me adamantly to use their fluid, and it's a multi-grand transaxle repair in the balance, I'll go fry other fish.

Cripes, you traded your's in about a year back. And I recall you saying "I'm outa here".