Auris Hybrid

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  1. pakitt

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    Der Toyota Auris Hybrid
    Official Toyota Website for the Auris Hybrid that will be launched in Fall 2010, but shown the end of March at the Automesse in Leipzig.
    The site is only in German, but some pics in the Galerie tab and a sneek peek of the interior cabin in the Video section.
    (major change of the inside compared to the Prius is the use of white plastic (yuk! :eek:) and the mode buttons located to the left rather than the right of the console).
    Since the car is likely lighter than the Prius but less aerodynamic it might well be that the performance of both models will be the same. No official numbers are yet available - likely after the presentation in March.
    Too bad the car is available only in late 2010, otherwise a "smaller Prius" could have been my choice...
     
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    Several pictures of the Auris Hybrid (including interiors and innovative solar cell roof design) available on the web site of Autobild - here.
    One comment in one of the pictures claims a fuel consumption of 4.2L/100km. Not clear if urban, combined or suburban consumption.
    On average it would be 0.2-0.3L/100km higher than the Prius.
    Considering that the Auris should weigh less, have the same drivetrain as the Prius, aerodynamics clearly play quite a role in keeping fuel consumption low.
    Estimated price will be 22k€ in Germany (19% VAT included).
     
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    The white interior plastic is about as practical as white tennis shoes. It would look like crap in a few short months, most likely.
     
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    The Prius is rated sub 4L/100km in Europe, so it would be 0.2-0.3L/100km lower than the Prius.
    The Toyota iQ diesel is by comparison at 4L/100km, and the competition has moved ahead with ultra efficient diesels in the C-segment. Toyota needs to start competing if it wants to get back in the game (The Prius is clean and the most efficient car in its segment, and Toyota is leading in fuel economy when it comes to petrol engines, but falling on diesels).
     
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    thats becaue clean and clean are 2 thing.
    a petrol hybrid car using 4 l 100 is cleaner then a diesel using 3,8l 100km.
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    nice car bad inside
    but its still a prototype design from the inside
    like normal this changes
     
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    And one 4L petrol car can be cleaner than another 4L, petrol is generally cleaner than diesel, while diesel contains more power than petrol, and so on and so forth.

    In the end it's the mpg figures that count, and with the smaller Auris being less efficient than the Prius while Ford Focus, Volkswagen Polo and other green/blue/cool-color-of-the-month diesels lead the efficiency race, Toyota doesn't stand as well as I would want it to.
     
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    in the end what really mathers is not the MPG but how clean it is..
    but thats the real end. and until then people only look at the pocket
     
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    Toyota GB's press release claims 74.9mpg (Imperial) which I think equates to 3.8L/100km, slightly lower consumption (higher economy) than the Prius. The CO2 figure is the same, 89g/km. It appears that a larger-wheel variant will again be available, again matching the Prius on 92g/km CO2.

    Thankfully the horrible blue leather and white glossy plastic interior from the previous concept are gone - the interior looks normal. The release refers to model grades, plural, so I'm hoping that there will be a base no-NAV model available. A full T3, T4, T Spirit range, matching the Prius, would be nice. (Or, T2, TR, SR matching current conventional Auris models.)

    It looks like the boot (trunk) will be a little shallower than the conventional models - the floor storage box appears to finish slightly above the sill - which is presumably due to battery placement just behind the rear seats. The box seems quite deep - not sure if there's a spare tyre under there, there may not be enough space.

    I might still wait for any further information on the FT-CH before committing, though.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Isn't this a Really Bad name for a new Toyota? Didn't Saturn name their short lived hybrid Auris or something like that? When I first read the title I thought somebody had posted about Saturn.
     
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    It's a bad name for one ugly car. It was the replacement name for the Corolla hatch which had a reputation for being a dull car. I think Toyota Europe are ending all their cars with IS or an S - Yaris, Auris, Avensis, Prius, or maybe it's just a coincidence? They also have the IQ and Aygo city cars which a quite funky but small. The IQ apparently is selling like hot cakes. They look a bit weird but it grows on you.

    And I have done a google search and it was a Saturn Aura which I think was a rebadged European Vectra?
     
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    QUOTE=GrumpyCabbie;1075562]It's a bad name for one ugly car. It was the replacement name for the Corolla hatch which had a reputation for being a dull car. I think Toyota Europe are ending all their cars with IS or an S - Yaris, Auris, Avensis, Prius, or maybe it's just a coincidence? They also have the IQ and Aygo city cars which a quite funky but small. The IQ apparently is selling like hot cakes. They look a bit weird but it grows on you.

    And I have done a google search and it was a Saturn Aura which I think was a rebadged European Vectra?[/QUOTE] That's the name. I saw one at the Harrisburg,Pa. auto show I guess 2 years ago now, Ithought it was the same as the Malibu hybrid, guess not. Both were great hybrids LOL
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    I'm not seeing a "white" interior... I'm seeing light reflection off smooth gray interior.
     
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    aww..we're not unique any more with the blue shifter!

    Sounds good. it's almost like a sporty Prius (model V notwithstanding). Same setup, similar mpg, same emissions, different body. What's not to like? (aside from the name. I'm ok with Auris...)
     
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    So you didn't see this original monstrosity then?

    [​IMG]

    Ick, ick, ick - looks like an iPod exploded.
     
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    Nope, missed that one. thanks. yuck.
     
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    Very nice! It will have projection head lamp and backup camera. Powered side view mirrors are nice. It seems the hatch opened by remote.
     
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    I am confused. If the ICE has 105 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 RPM and the MG2 adds 153 ft-lbs of torque, how is the combined torque 295 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm?

    Since HP = torque * RPM/5252 it should 'only' be able to make 176 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 RPM, even if that was the power peak.
     
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    Auris HSD like the Prius is a power split hybrid. 72% of ICE mechanic torque goes out the wheel and 28% goes to the generator MG1. Therefore 76 lbs-ft from ICE would goes to the wheels through the final gear ratio.

    There is SRU (new in 2010) used to multiply MG2 torque by 2.636 times, boosting it to 403 lbs-ft. This also goes through the final gear ratio.

    The maximum combined torque output is 76 + 403 = 479 lbs-ft. The final gear ratio is 3.267 so this makes 1,565 lbs-ft at the wheels.

    Remember Prius does not shift gear so that kind of torque at the wheel is equivalent to first gear in a step gear transmission car.
     
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